Bailey's good, but nothing special.

His serves his purpose and role within the team well. He doesn't deserve the criticism levelled at him from opposition fans.

But at the same time some of our fans go over the top, like calling him the most feared man in super league

Was I silly for bracketing Cunningham with the man who has played more games than anyone else in Super League, Scored more tries than anyone else in Super League, played in every single season of Super League, achieved every trophy there is to achieve in Super league?

On reflection, you're right. Cunningham is a distant second behind Senior.

It doesn't count because he didn't play for the "mighty S"

With today's news coming out of Knowsley Road it's this season or never now for Mick Potter's St Helens. No wonder he was laughing after Sunday's game.

My bad.

The people have spoken.

A consensus has been formulated.

Krusty, Senior isn't even in Harris' class.

As your old boyfreind used to say.

Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Still projecting homosexuality onto others for a laff, Krusty? Wot next - peashooters?



I give Senior his due for making the most of his talents. Indeed, if THAT were the absolute yardstick of greatness he might well be close to the top of the pile. But it isn't.

Like Senior, Harris endured as a top flight player. But he was also more talented and influential. The fact that he was instrumental in the Bulls AND Rhinos' SL championships puts him above Senior alone.

Yet at 34 Keith Senior is still coming up with game winning contributions in Super League, such as the one we saw on Saturday. Harris, on the other hand, at the same age (in fact slightly younger), and having spent spent a year at the mighty Featherstone after a less than average season at the Bulls, is now coaching at Crusaders.

Just out of interest, which Leeds SL championship win was he instrumental in?

I know he wasn't great in the 2004 final but I'd argue Robbie Paul played a much more influential role



Harris had some about 3 great seasons at Leeds but he certainly wasn't consistently one of the best players in his position for anywhere near as long as Senior has been.

Of course none of that will matter in your petty point scoring competition.

Oh and for the record Graham > Bailey > the rest of the Saints props

Harris history revision by bitter Leeds fans?

You can set your watch by it.

Where's the history revision?
He wasn't involved in any Championship winning team and was great for 3yrs at Leeds 98,99,and 2000.
Which british centre has been better than Senior during the SL era?

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I was just shown to be a complete fool with my inaccurate ramblings therefore I'll make another point scoring jibe to cover up my idiocy

Fozzard got dropped from our squad with better stats than Bailey. I sincerely doubt that even the most spannerish of Leeds fans would rate Bailey as better than Puletua.

The fact that Harris was not involved in any of Leeds championships simply demonstrates what little grasp you have about the subject you're pontificating on, as per usual.

So be warned - young people - too much weed can seriously damage your memory.





But Leeds' defeat to - rather than victory over - Wigan does not alter the fact that Harris was a better player than Senior (in his prime he'd make Keith look like JOHN Senior). And Harris certainly WAS a key member of Bradford's superb championship charge from an unprecedented third place, despite spending time out in Rugger Bugger land and returning in a pretty appalling state.

And no amount of history revision will blot out your pre-Union/Bulls worship of Harris. Although I expect you lot will comically take your best shot at trivialising his Blue and Amber achievements some time around
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Oh dear.

GO on then, I'll give you Tony P, but are you seriously saying you'd take Fozzard over Bailey? This is where Saints fans petty campaigns to belittle a 4 time SL winner takes over from reality. Fozzard wasn't even good enough to get another gig at Hull KR

You can't really compare the 2 as players due to the positions they play. In his prime Harris was a lot more important to the Leeds side than Senior was due to the influence he could have over the game. Harris is a Leeds legend, mainly for his exploits in helping us win the Challenge Cup in 1999. He was also the best player in the League without full recognition for at least 2 years. Any real Leeds fan will confirm that.

Over the course of Super League Keith's consistency in performances makes him a better player in the SL era IMO otherwise we can start saying Trent Barrett, Jamie Lyon, hell lets throw Andrew Johns in, were the best/most influential players in the 14 years of SL

Don't deflect away from your brain fart by pretending anybody here is saying Harris wasn't a Leeds great. He was.

Still, I'd be interested for you to expand on this Championship he won with us.

Do you know ANYTHING about Rugby League?

For most of the period when we have been the most dominant team he has been the weakest link and the coaches have been limited with the salary cap. He is really a failed 2nd row who couldn't keep his place there. As a prop he just doesn't have any go forward which is the props prime role. He has not progressed and certainly is not feared by other clubs, as he is the most easily tackled player we have, which is proven week after week! What is the international recognition he receives?

I don't need to wait for the stats either, but I am sure they will prove my point.

Anyway lets just agree to differ.