Highly unlikely we will ever know the truth, and it always has two sides anyway.

Spouting non specific stuff to the media is also very unhelpful.

I wish Mitch well but I no longer need to hear his views on Leeds, particularly as we have a new regime underway.

I think one thing we can take from this is that when Sinfield talks about Leeds as a club "doing things the right way" as he has done previously it will be difficult to take him seriously.

Again, what accounts are these? Genuine question.

Why? Other accounts say Garbutt had no appetite to dig in with the rest of squad when the brown & smelly stuff was hitting the fan. We can alk take what we want from the situation 2 sides to every story.

Only players who have a gripe with the club come out and say things that ain't 100% true, Leeds as a club do not disrespect players in public, and knowing some of the things that have happened in the past with players such as the full back now playing for Wigan the number of chances he had to put things right only shows that the reason why Garbutt has left Leeds is down to something he has done or not done. Only he knows what has happened. I was told there were players who had a poor attitude last season but I do not know if he was one of them. I think we all have an idea why Garbutt has left but maybe not right to discuss on here.

Who cares in all honesty? MG is a former player, all the best and move on.

Not really, you on the other hand...

I think Garbutt making his statement today instead of just saying happy to be at a great club etc is an indication of attitude . We missed him last season ,but hes left now and good luck to him .

I think Garbutt making his statement today instead of just saying happy to be at a great club etc is an indication of attitude . We missed him last season ,but hes left now and good luck to him .

Lots of different opinions on here about why he has left, but most fans are in agreement on one thing. When he was on the pitch he was our best prop and we need someone to replace that go forward.

Yeah agree. Something not right with him. I 100% trust Kevs judgement on this

[i“Some things happened at Leeds that I didn’t know about originally…”

“It all came out in the end. I wasn’t happy with how some things were done towards the end of the year and the opportunity came to leave."[/i

Difficult to take much away from that, other than the thinly veiled dig at the period when Sinfield took over. Perhaps it is as simple as Sinfield (and Furner) not seeing a future for Garbutt in their plans, especially given that he was taking up a valuable quota spot. Despite his stature on the pitch Garbutt doesn't give the impression of being a great trainer. McDermott jokingly singles Garbutt out in the 'As Good As It Gets' film, giving the impression that Garbutt struggled for motivation in training (perhaps I misinterpreted that comment, but it struck me as a bit odd when I watched it). Perhaps the new regime are looking for a better role-model to lead the pack?

That’s how I took the piece in the film as well.
As for his comments as you say it appears to be a dig either Sinfield or Hetherington for sacking McDermott. If it’s either that or the paternity leave issue then I don’t have much sympathy with Garbutt.

I read his comments and don't think he said much at all to get upset about. He'll have his view of why he's gone and no doubt Sinfield, Furner and co have theirs. Doesn't really matter - he's gone and is an ex-player as far as I'm concerned, only of interest when we play KR.

On the full eighty last week Jack Walker was asked what it was in training with Mitch - he replied don't know he never trained always made excuse why he wasn't fit to train.

Kind of says why Leeds let him go

Leeds well rid by the sound of it. Always trusted Kev's integrity in the matter.

Seems the club know what they’re doing, this is probably what Sinfield hinted at by the culture of the club that has been lost, if that’s true were well rid

That may be true but we still need a big metre making prop (at least one) as poor trainer or not, he made big yardage. Though he certainly wasn’t fit enough to make the match day squad on to many occasions

Hes left and no concern of ours now ,but it will be interesting to see how he goes at KR

Is there a branch of Mrs Miggins Pie shop in Hull ? Important for his strict training regime.

You guys will have seen a hell of a lot more of him than I have so I stand to be corrected, but I always thought he was at best bang average, terribly unfit, grossly overweight and was a lazy defender. He could carry the ball forward and carry defenders with him but he was slow and his PTB was slow so any advantage was lost.

He did manage to make me feel athletic and slim though so not all bad.

He was signed mid season on a short term deal and then was given a 4 year ? Contract along with the euphoria of the treble season

Not a million miles out. Been a few imports that could be described similarly - see Feka, Pauli Pauli, Dave coal train Taylor. Usually popular with some, especially commentary teams on sky, but soon move on or fall out of favour as a rule.

It’s been brought to my attention that the Mitch “maternity leave” rumour I heard and posted was bollax.

Thanks for the DM mysterious helper.

Doesn't stop most people.