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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"I wasn't questioning your version tvoc '"
I know you weren't mate, I just get a little protective sometimes over my babies.
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Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"Would it be possible to give me McGuire's, Watkins and Hardaker's total (inc SL, Challenge Cup and Playoffs/WCC):
Apperences, Tries, Goals, Drop Goals, Total. as of the Huddersfield game please. If you have time of course. Thanks in advance
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No problem.
Danny McGuire Leeds Total : Pl 248 + Sub 45, Tries 220, Goals 0, Drop Goals 2, Points 882
SL Regular Rounds : Pl 198 + Sub 35, Tries 185, Goals 0, Drop Goals 2, Points 742
SL Play-Offs : Pl 21 + Sub 2, Tries 14, Goals 0, Drop Goals 0, Points 56
Challenge Cup : Pl 24 + Sub 8, Tries 18, Goals 0, Drop Goals 0, Points 72
WCC : Pl 5 + Sub 0, Tries 3, Goals 0, Drop Goals 0, Points 12
(Please note that in addition to the above McGuire has been named on the bench in two other SL Regular Round fixtures without getting on during the match. =#FF0000These non-appearances are not included.)
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Kallum Watins Leeds Total : Pl 57 + Sub 8, Tries 38, Goals 0, Drop Goals 0, Points 152
SL Regular Rounds : Pl 49 + Sub 7, Tries 33, Goals 0, Drop Goals 0, Points 132
SL Play-Offs :
Challenge Cup : Pl 6 + Sub 0, Tries 4, Goals 0, Drop Goals 0, Points 16
WCC : Pl 2 + Sub 1, Tries 1, Goals 0, Drop Goals 0, Points 4
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Zak Hardaker Leeds Total : Pl 48 + Sub 0, Tries 32, Goals 1, Drop Goals 0, Points 130
SL Regular Rounds : Pl 37 + Sub 0, Tries 23, Goals 1, Drop Goals 0, Points 94
SL Play-Offs : Pl 4 + Sub 0, Tries 4, Goals 0, Drop Goals 0, Points 16
Challenge Cup : Pl 6 + Sub 0, Tries 5, Goals 0, Drop Goals 0, Points 20
WCC : Pl 1 + Sub 0, Tries 0, Goals 0, Drop Goals 0, Points 0
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| Well I usually just included their appearences if they are on the bench but dont get on so I shall alter them when I get home tonight.
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| just looked o the Wigan forum .They have 34 playe made 300 apps.I wonder how many players leeds have who have reached 300 tvoc?
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| I don't have access to a definitive list but I think Leeds have had a total of =#0000BF27 players making 300 or more appearances (including substitute appearances) for the club:
Headingley Story Volume Two - =#0000BF17
(F Webster, J Brough, J Atkinson, R Batten, E Williams, A Smith, J Thompson, B L Jones, E Harris, J Holmes, S Hynes, S Satterthwaite, D Prosser, K Jubb, W Ward, L Dyl, P Cookson)
Combining the Headingley Story with my own records 1979/80 to 1995/96 - =#0000BF5
(R Dickinson, G Eccles, N Hague, S Pitchford, D Ward)
My own records 1979/80 to date - =#0000BF5
(D Heron, F Cummins, K Senior, K Sinfield, R Burrow)
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| With many thanks to =#0000BFA-Fire-Inside we have the following regarding Kevin Sinfield's overall points tally and where he places on the all-time list:
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Leeds captain KEVIN SINFIELD needs five points to draw level with Headingley legend Lewis Jones in eighth place in the list of all-time leading pointscorers.
Sinfield broke Jones' club record as leading pointscorer last season, and passed his club goalkicking record total in 2011.
Sinfield's last goal in England's win over France in the Final of the Autumn Internationals in November moved him ahead of Steve Quinn into ninth place.
ALL-TIME LEADING SCORERS
1 Neil Fox (Wakefield/Bradford/Hull KR/York/Bramley/Huddersfield, 1956-79) 6,220
=#0000BF2 Jim Sullivan (Wigan, 1921-46) 6,022
3 Gus Risman (Salford/Workington/Batley, 1929-54) 4,050
=#0000BF4 John Woods (Leigh/Warrington/Bradford/Rochdale, 1976-92) 3,985
5 Cyril Kellett (Hull KR/Featherstone, 1956-74) 3,686
=#0000BF6 Kel Coslett (St Helens/Rochdale, 1962-79) 3,545
7 Mick Nanyn (Swinton/Rochdale/Whitehaven/Widnes/Oldham/Leigh, 1999-2011) 3,514
=#0000BF8 Lewis Jones (Leeds, 1952-64) 3,445
9 Kevin Sinfield (Leeds, 1997-present) 3,440
=#0000BF10 Steve Quinn (York/Featherstone, 1970-8icon_cool.gif 3,438
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With a ten season average Leeds club return of 296 points (369 in 2012) + those waiting to be gained in a busy year of representative football could/should see him end 2013 in 5th spot.
Ultimately the all-time 3rd spot should be well within his reach.
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| Quote ="tvoc"With many thanks to =#0000BFA-Fire-Inside we have the following regarding Kevin Sinfield's overall points tally and where he places on the all-time list:
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Sinfield broke Jones' club record as leading pointscorer last season, and passed his club goalkicking record total in 2011.
Sinfield's last goal in England's win over France in the Final of the Autumn Internationals in November moved him ahead of Steve Quinn into ninth place.
ALL-TIME LEADING SCORERS
1 Neil Fox (Wakefield/Bradford/Hull KR/York/Bramley/Huddersfield, 1956-79) 6,220
=#0000BF2 Jim Sullivan (Wigan, 1921-46) 6,022
3 Gus Risman (Salford/Workington/Batley, 1929-54) 4,050
=#0000BF4 John Woods (Leigh/Warrington/Bradford/Rochdale, 1976-92) 3,985
5 Cyril Kellett (Hull KR/Featherstone, 1956-74) 3,686
=#0000BF6 Kel Coslett (St Helens/Rochdale, 1962-79) 3,545
7 Mick Nanyn (Swinton/Rochdale/Whitehaven/Widnes/Oldham/Leigh, 1999-2011) 3,514
=#0000BF8 Lewis Jones (Leeds, 1952-64) 3,445
9 Kevin Sinfield (Leeds, 1997-present) 3,440
=#0000BF10 Steve Quinn (York/Featherstone, 1970-8icon_cool.gif 3,438
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With a ten season average Leeds club return of 296 points (369 in 2012) + those waiting to be gained in a busy year of representative football could/should see him end 2013 in 5th spot.
Ultimately the all-time 3rd spot should be well within his reach.'"
Cheers mate
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| Quote ="tvoc"I don't have access to a definitive list but I think Leeds have had a total of =#0000BF27 players making 300 or more appearances (including substitute appearances) for the club:
Headingley Story Volume Two - =#0000BF17
(F Webster, J Brough, J Atkinson, R Batten, E Williams, A Smith, J Thompson, B L Jones, E Harris, J Holmes, S Hynes, S Satterthwaite, D Prosser, K Jubb, W Ward, L Dyl, P Cookson)
Combining the Headingley Story with my own records 1979/80 to 1995/96 - =#0000BF5
(R Dickinson, G Eccles, N Hague, S Pitchford, D Ward)
My own records 1979/80 to date - =#0000BF5
(D Heron, F Cummins, K Senior, K Sinfield, R Burrow)
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| Looking back to the Hull game:
Carl Ablett made his 100th start in the SL Regular Rounds becoming the 22nd player to do so with Leeds.
Kallum Watkins made his 50th start in the SL Regular Rounds becoming the 41st player to do so with Leeds.
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Kevin Sinfield's next appearance will be his 350th in the SL Regular Rounds. One of the many Headingley SL Era lists he heads.
Danny McGuire will be making his 200th SL Regular Round start at Wheldon Road if he makes the run-on side on Sunday. He will be the 5th player to do so for Leeds.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Jamie Peacock's next appearance in a Leeds shirt will be his 200th for the club in all comps.'"
Just out of interest, do you know how many games JP played for Bradford. Just wondering if he'll be remembered as a Leeds legend or a Bradford legend... or simple both?
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| 207 according to Wiki
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| I don't know the 'all comps' figure but in terms of the SL Regular Rds and Play-Offs Peacock made a total of 188 (including subs) for the Bradford club. His figure for the same with Leeds currently stand at 173.
No matter where he ends up playing the most games I think he's been a major figure and influence at both.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"Just out of interest, do you know how many games JP played for Bradford. Just wondering if he'll be remembered as a Leeds legend or a Bradford legend... or simple both?'"
I read the exact number of appearance for bradford somewhere,it may have been in his Book No white flag.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"207 according to Wiki'"
That is the correct figure. definitely 207 games in all comps for Bradford.
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| Quote ="A-Fire-Inside"That is the correct figure. definitely 207 games in all comps for Bradford.'"
This year's handbook agrees with that figure, so whether it's accurate or not is anybody's guess.
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| [size=85Have been offline all week so I apologise if this has been mentioned elsewhere.[/size
Danny McGuire will become the 4th Leeds player to make his 300th appearances for the club during the SL Era next time out. (He's already made the match-day 17 on 301 occasions but twice has remained unused on the bench.)
1 = Kevin Sinfield 439
2 = Keith Senior 365
3 = Rob Burrow 361
=#0000BF4 = Danny McGuire 299
5 = Jamie Jones-Buchanan 285
6 = Ryan Bailey 278
7 = Francis Cummins 268
7 = Barrie McDermott 268
9 = Matt Diskin 264
10 = Ali Lauitiiti 200
10 = Jamie Peacock 200
McGuire is also 4th on the Leeds SL Era points list in a mini battle for 3rd with Burrow.
1 = Kevin Sinfield 3260
2 = Iestyn Harris 1455
=#0000BF3 = Rob Burrow 911
4 = Danny McGuire 899
5 = Keith Senior 684
6 = Francis Cummins 612
7 = Ryan Hall 568
8 = Mark Calderwood 424
9 = Scott Donald 368
10 = Graham Holroyd 364
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| Kevin Sinfield took over Henry Paul as the top conversions rate in Superleague appearances last week I believe as Kev is on 36/36 and the record was 35/35?
Kevin Sinfield is on 27/27 in all competitive competitions i believe.
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| If Ryan Hall or Danny McGuire score tonight they'll be the first player/s to have score 4 tries in WCC Finals.
McGuire in 2005 - 2009 - 2010
Hall in 2009 - 2012 (2)
WCC Appearances
Watkins - 3
Vickery - 0
Ablett - 3
Moon - 0
Hall - 3
Sinfield - 5
McGuire - 5
Leuluai - 4
Burrow - 5
Peacock - 6 (2 with Bradford)
JJB - 5
Delaney - 2
Ward - 0
Clarkson - 1
McShane - 1
Kirke - 2 ......(for all you Kirkey haters, both games we lost)
Achurch - 0
Moore - 0
Keinhorst - 0
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| Quote ="tvoc"[size=85Have been offline all week so I apologise if this has been mentioned elsewhere.[/size
Danny McGuire will become the 4th Leeds player to make his 300th appearances for the club during the SL Era next time out. (He's already made the match-day 17 on 301 occasions but twice has remained unused on the bench.)
1 = Kevin Sinfield 439
2 = Keith Senior 365
3 = Rob Burrow 361
=#0000BF4 = Danny McGuire 299
5 = Jamie Jones-Buchanan 285
6 = Ryan Bailey 278
7 = Francis Cummins 268
7 = Barrie McDermott 268
9 = Matt Diskin 264
10 = Ali Lauitiiti 200
10 = Jamie Peacock 200
McGuire is also 4th on the Leeds SL Era points list in a mini battle for 3rd with Burrow.
1 = Kevin Sinfield 3260
2 = Iestyn Harris 1455
=#0000BF3 = Rob Burrow 911
4 = Danny McGuire 899
5 = Keith Senior 684
6 = Francis Cummins 612
7 = Ryan Hall 568
8 = Mark Calderwood 424
9 = Scott Donald 368
10 = Graham Holroyd 364'"
Don't you just hate when the page changes like that.
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| Quote ="tvoc"[size=85Have been offline all week so I apologise if this has been mentioned elsewhere.[/size
Danny McGuire will become the 4th Leeds player to make his 300th appearances for the club during the SL Era next time out. (He's already made the match-day 17 on 301 occasions but twice has remained unused on the bench.)
1 = Kevin Sinfield 439
2 = Keith Senior 365
3 = Rob Burrow 361
=#0000BF4 = Danny McGuire 299
5 = Jamie Jones-Buchanan 285
6 = Ryan Bailey 278
7 = Francis Cummins 268
7 = Barrie McDermott 268
9 = Matt Diskin 264
10 = Ali Lauitiiti 200
10 = Jamie Peacock 200
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Where do these figures place the top 3 on the all time list? I know Sinfield would have to play every game for another 4/5 years to get near to John holmes but wondered if he was approaching top 5 or 10 all time yet?
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| Quote ="Andy R"Where do these figures place the top 3 on the all time list? I know Sinfield would have to play every game for another 4/5 years to get near to John holmes but wondered if he was approaching top 5 or 10 all time yet?'"
I think there are quite a few over 400 right now Especially some of those who played in the 60s and 70s they weren't hampered by two world wars like their predecessors.I think if kevin plays another 3 seasons including this he should hit 500
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| Quote ="Andy R"Where do these figures place the =#0000BFtop 3 on the all time list? I know Sinfield would have to play every game for another 4/5 years to get near to John holmes but wondered if he was approaching top 5 or 10 all time yet?'"
Sorry for the delay in responding.
With one huge caveat in that the following table is drawn from a combination of the Headingley Story Volume 2 and my own records collected since the 1979/80 season ....... It appears that tonight =#0000BFKevin Sinfield could go = 6 with Jim Brough on Leeds' All-Time Appearances List in All Comps.
1 - John Holmes 624
2 - Fred Webster 543
3 - John Atkinson 518
4 - David Ward 480
5 - Alan Smith 479
6 - Jim Brough 442
7 - =#0000BFKevin Sinfield 441
8 - Ray Batten 434
9 - Les Dyl 432
10 - Evan Williams 415
=#0000BFWith regard to Keith Senior and Rob Burrow (subject to confirmation) I have them 19th and 20th respectfully but they will shortly be changing places as Burrow is only two behind Senior prior to tonight's game.
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| From tvoc's list above, it's not unreasonable to speculate that Sinfield will end up 2nd or 3rd on that list.
A fantastic achivement given the reduction in the regular number of games now played per season.
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| Quote ="Old Feller"From tvoc's list above, it's not unreasonable to speculate that Sinfield will end up 2nd or 3rd on that list.
A fantastic achivement given the reduction in the regular number of games now played per season.'"
think Sinfield is out of contract at end of 2014.If he stay's on he should over take Atky or maybe Fred Webster
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| Quote ="tvoc"
ALL-TIME LEADING SCORERS
1 Neil Fox (Wakefield/Bradford/Hull KR/York/Bramley/Huddersfield, 1956-79) 6,220
=#0000BF2 Jim Sullivan (Wigan, 1921-46) 6,022
3 Gus Risman (Salford/Workington/Batley, 1929-54) 4,050
=#0000BF4 John Woods (Leigh/Warrington/Bradford/Rochdale, 1976-92) 3,985
5 Cyril Kellett (Hull KR/Featherstone, 1956-74) 3,686
=#0000BF6 Kel Coslett (St Helens/Rochdale, 1962-79) 3,545
7 Mick Nanyn (Swinton/Rochdale/Whitehaven/Widnes/Oldham/Leigh, 1999-2011) 3,514
=#0000BF8 Lewis Jones (Leeds, 1952-64) 3,445
9 Kevin Sinfield (Leeds, 1997-present) 3,440
=#0000BF10 Steve Quinn (York/Featherstone, 1970-8icon_cool.gif 3,438
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With a ten season average Leeds club return of 296 points (369 in 2012) + those waiting to be gained in a busy year of representative football could/should see him end 2013 in 5th spot.
Ultimately the all-time 3rd spot should be well within his reach.'"
Time for a progress update -
1 Neil Fox (Wakefield/Bradford/Hull KR/York/Bramley/Huddersfield, 1956-79) 6,220
=#0000BF2 Jim Sullivan (Wigan, 1921-46) 6,022
3 Gus Risman (Salford/Workington/Batley, 1929-54) 4,050
=#0000BF4 John Woods (Leigh/Warrington/Bradford/Rochdale, 1976-92) 3,985
5 Cyril Kellett (Hull KR/Featherstone, 1956-74) 3,686
=#0000BF6 Kel Coslett (St Helens/Rochdale, 1962-79) 3,545
7 Kevin Sinfield (Leeds, 1997-present) 3,523
=#0000BF8 Mick Nanyn (Swinton/Rochdale/Whitehaven/Widnes/Oldham/Leigh, 1999-2011) 3,514
9 Lewis Jones (Leeds, 1952-64) 3,445
=#0000BF10 Steve Quinn (York/Featherstone, 1970-8icon_cool.gif 3,438
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Brett Delaney's next Appearance will be his 100th for Leeds in All Comps - likewise his next start will be his 100th in All Comps as he has yet to be named on the substitutes bench.
He will become the 33rd player to do so with Leeds during the SL Era in terms of 100 Appearances and 26th player to do so in terms of Starts. If he starts in his next game though he will become only the 3rd Leeds player to make his first 100 Appearances without ever been named on the bench along the way to the landmark - following in the footsteps of Gareth Ellis and Scott Donald. Ellis made his first 106 appearances in the run-on side before starting a game from the bench while Donald played out his entire 145 game Leeds career without ever gracing the plastic seats/wooden benches at kick-off.
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The next try scored by a team facing Leeds will be the 2,000th Leeds have conceded during the SL Era.
Breakdown of Tries by Opponent: 1,999 Tries, 578 Games at An Average of 3.46 Per Game
[codeOpponent Tries Games Avg T/G
St Helens 269 ….. 60 ….. 4.48
Bradford 244 ….. 61 ….. 4.00
Wigan 216 ….. 60 ….. 3.60
Warrington 178 ….. 45 ….. 3.96
London 141 ….. 45 ….. 3.13
Hull 130 ….. 43 ….. 3.02
Castleford 127 ….. 42 ….. 3.02
Wakefield 124 ….. 37 ….. 3.35
Huddersf'ld 102 ….. 32 ….. 3.19
Salford 93 ….. 32 ….. 2.91
Halifax 64 ….. 18 ….. 3.56
Catalans 59 ….. 18 ….. 3.28
Hull KR 42 ….. 15 ….. 2.80
Sheffield 32 ….. 8 ….. 4.00
Widnes 32 ….. 11 ….. 2.91
Oldham 21 ….. 5 ….. 4.20
Celtic 18 ….. 8 ….. 2.25
N Queensl'd 16 ….. 2 ….. 8.00
Workington 13 ….. 4 ….. 3.25
Gateshead 9 ….. 3 ….. 3.00
Leigh 9 ….. 5 ….. 1.80
Adelaide 8 ….. 2 ….. 4.00
Paris 8 ….. 4 ….. 2.00
Manly 7 ….. 2 ….. 3.50
Canterbury 6 ….. 1 ….. 6.00
Melbourne 6 ….. 3 ….. 2.00
Swinton 6 ….. 2 ….. 3.00
Dewsbury 5 ….. 2 ….. 2.50
Blackpool 4 ….. 1 ….. 4.00
Featherstone 4 ….. 2 ….. 2.00
Toulouse 3 ….. 1 ….. 3.00
Whitehaven 3 ….. 2 ….. 1.50
Rochdale 0 ….. 1 ….. 0.00
SM Pia 0 ….. 1 ….. 0.00
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In terms of the highest try scoring players when facing Leeds the top ten of the SL Era are:
22 - Robbie Paul
17 - Leon Pryce
16 - Gareth Raynor, Paul Sculthorpe, Leslie Vainikolo
15 - Luke Dorn, Paul Wellens
14 - Paul Newlove, Henry Paul, Anthony Sullivan
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| Quote ="Old Feller"From tvoc's list above, it's not unreasonable to speculate that Sinfield will end up 2nd or 3rd on that list.
A fantastic achivement given the reduction in the regular number of games now played per season.'"
And don't forget Kev wasn't even our kicker for a good few years. Imagine what he'd have scored if he was kicking from the off
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