Bit of a thread drift, but they were having a clean out in Manchester the other day.......

So..... writing a letter into the league express or league weekly (content checked independently by the paper before publishing) to voice an opinion that differs to a belief or opinion of your own means that person
'needs a good slap'


I read many letters i disagree with on a regular basis but respect the fact it is another persons view and accept we live in a society of free speach.
The paper has published the volume of letters it has this week due to the proportionate number of same or similar letters recieved from both Tiger fans and other fans of clubs within the r.l community and due to the fact this was one of the headlines of the week (all be it for all the wrong reasons).
Sorry you feel these letters are not to your taste as they highlight issues involving your club/fans - as with the Tigers you were unfortunate, to be in the position of being live on sky at the end of a week with a major announcement regarding supporters behavour and verbal abuse the reaction/response of other fans was always going to come under scrutiny regardless if it came from Leeds or Warrington ect.
The issue has opened a wider debate and brings into question the behavour of fans in general - from vebal abuse, both fans of the Tigers and Leeds regarding throwing of bottles onto the field of play, Salford fans throwing live flares at opposition players, fighting and intimidation of fans on and off the field to give a few examples. However the manner and fairness of the punishment handed out in comparison to other events does bring into question the validity of the decision (specificaly due to reports of the same abuse directed at the player at both Bradford and Wakefield)
I myself have not sent a letter or e-mail to the papers or the RFL (i do not wish to see Leeds as a club fined and can understand the reaction of the Leeds fans to the complaints being made (it looks in appearance to be petty and fans looking at some where else to point the finger) - i have no ill feeling to the Leeds club and in many ways have a great respect for the proffesional way your club is run.
I do not condone the behavour of the of the (so called) Tiger fans in question (the whole handfull of them) and do feel although the club could not have prevented the behaviour/chanting as it occured, a more concerted effort should have been seen publicaly in the aftermath of the events.
As for your statement refering to people 'needing a good slap' - pathetic comment from a coward sat behind a computer who would probably struggle to kick his own

- grow up

Firstly the majority of the letters are just whinging and giving the "we were hard done" approach and the rest were just an excuse to chelp about Leeds without actually mentioning that the Saints end was chanting plenty of obscene things directed at Ryan Bailey.
The authors fail to mention previous warnings issued and the small fact that homophobic chants etc are ILLEGAL!

Given the output of the thread on the topic on the Castleford forum I'd be very surprised if the authors realised the legality of the situation - there are some real dunderheads in that thread.

Oh dear.



You were doing so well until your last sentence.

Bless

Not trying to 'do well' just highlighting a point or view of my own.
The last sentence was put in a way i thought you may understand due the mentalilty of your highlighted post.
but thanks for the blessing


Nice to see you are unable to respond to the points made or at least declined to do so through having a greater interest in threats and childish banter (it was put in that way expecting exactly that kind of response)

Firstly, if you are responding directly to me, deal with the the points i raise to coment on rather than your opinions or comments of other posts/letters.
Second, i highlighted examples of various issues relating to the general behaviour of r.l fans, i didnt try to document each individual case for scrutiny.
Third, i have said nothing in a negative manner towards your club, if anything my comments could be described as complimentary.
Fourth, several clubs have received previous warnings and have either offended again on both the same and different issues - the point being brought into question is the RFL's consistency in dealing with these issues and the fairness of the punishment handed out.
To give a similar example of this i questioned the punishment recieved by both the Leeds club (throwing bottles onto the field of play) or the Salford club (throwing live flares directly at opposition players) on previous visits to the Jungle, for that matter the failure of the Castleford club to control the crowd during these incidents. Certainly not the fine or punishment imposed on the Castleford club after the Catalan game.
Finally, many (certainly not i) question the legality of Homophobic chanting. The simple fact is this is not an issue being dealt with by the courts and people are questioning the RFL's ability to handle the issue in a fair manner.
Are we now saying to our children (the next generation of fans) it is wrong to abuse people on the basis of there sexual orientation or colour of there skin, but it is acceptable to abuse people for being fat, ginger, bald ect ?
(regardless of the legal issues here, this kind of abuse ruins peoples lives specificaly the young, some who have committed suicide or caused themselves serious illness to try counter this type of abuse).
My own opinion be the Castleford club to a certain degree got what they deserved for there handling of the incident however the club has carried out several improvements to combat the problems both they and other clubs face after the Catalan incident and feel the fine is more of a statment/reaction to the level of press interest Mr Thomas and his agent have created (i do not condone in any way the chanting that was directed at the player and am ashamed of the fact my club has been dragged through the dirt due to it, i will however leave open to scrutiny/opinion his reasons for raising the point with anyone who will give the time to listen and find it astonishing that a person can state they were made to feel ''scared'' when on a rugby field surrounded by team mates, with police and stewards present and a minute later they acknowledge the fact the abuse was carried out by a small group of teens and other than them the people he came into contact with were some of the nicest people he has met).

TBH I got half way through and it turned out to be just a whinge so I skipped to the end'"

:20pyedn7

Says a lot in itself if you can judge and respond to a post without reading it !

Bless your sensitive soul. Threats

Its a pleasure to provide such a service
(the humour, not picking food off a monitor)

Where?




Oh I can, believe me. I just choose not waste my time with people who appear perfectly rational then finish with hormonal rants.

It's a mystery. I would have put Cas fans inability down to the obvious, but Leeds fans inability to do it destroy that hypothesis.

Is your 'partner' a woman by any chance?

Steady. We dont want be tarnished with the same brush as them now do we?

Valid question, awaiting an equally valid answer.....

I always question the use of the word 'partner', bit vague innit.

There'll be grounds for reporting you to the RFL in there somewhere.

Any tenuous link will do. They're out to get me.

Must admit to finding some of your comments quite amusing - if im unable to have a conversation on here with you guys on a serious subject ill enjoy a bit of banter (if allowed).
As previously stated if anyone cares to read the posts i have no issues with the Leeds club and have made no negative comments regarding your club (if any personal opinion i have made state quite clear the opposite).
I didnt realise your section of the forum was exclusive to Leeds fans only and posts from other clubs fans dont seem welcome (shame).
I repeat i have made no complaints by either letter or e-mail to either the RFL or the r.l papers (it does however seem this fact is of no real relevance and i will be treated in the same way as others who you have taken issue with).
One point i will make is my 'partner' or my sexuality is non of your business and you will be waiting a long time if you are awaiting an answer to this (there is no relevance and many people use the term partner as it does not specify or presume an assumption/opinion about some one through either sexuality or marriage).
The VOR is actually a reference to my late Grandfather which i use in many ways (one of my ways of remembering him, i understand you were not to know this and can there for take your coments in good humour - would be a little disappointing to say the least if you continue to mock it though).
Regards.

I retract.

Thanks.