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| For both Huddersfield and Leeds relegation is a real prospect - Huddersfield need to avoid it at all costs. They looked like they were improving but that now looks like a blip.
The middle 8's looks like an interesting competition with some big guns who cannot afford relegation. I will be interested to see how London go - I think a SL club could realistically go this year.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"For both Huddersfield and Leeds relegation is a real prospect - Huddersfield need to avoid it at all costs. They looked like they were improving but that now looks like a blip.
The middle 8's looks like an interesting competition with some big guns who cannot afford relegation. I will be interested to see how London go - I think a SL club could realistically go this year.'"
The quality of the championship is awful. London aren't a good side last year Wakefield were an appalling side who and to panic last minute and they got through against a Bradford squad which was better.
This year leeds or Hudds with probably finish bottom. Both are comfortably better than Wakefield last year. They will go in to the middle 8s with Salford who are a decent side, and either HKR or Widnes who are better than last year where they comfortably walked through the middle 8s.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a clean sweep of SL wins.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"The quality of the championship is awful. London aren't a good side last year Wakefield were an appalling side who and to panic last minute and they got through against a Bradford squad which was better.
This year leeds or Hudds with probably finish bottom. Both are comfortably better than Wakefield last year. They will go in to the middle 8s with Salford who are a decent side, and either HKR or Widnes who are better than last year where they comfortably walked through the middle 8s.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a clean sweep of SL wins.'"
But the SL clubs have to play each other so they will lose some and one of them will end up in the £1m game and then anything can happen. A team has an off day that day and anything is possible
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| Just think how the club might have acted if the team was playing even worse, firmly rooted at the foot of the table with an embarrassing negative points difference, out of the CC and showing no signs of any upwards trajectory despite the return of their 'best' players (with their last two - far apart - barely scraped victories played in dreadfully levelling down conditions)? Oh and still firmly in contention for championship football next season.....
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| And their training pitch flooded.
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| Bit strange they've done it a week before a CC QF. Would you give him that game or hope a new guy might have a honeymoon period that sees them win that.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"The quality of the championship is awful. London aren't a good side last year Wakefield were an appalling side who and to panic last minute and they got through against a Bradford squad which was better.
This year leeds or Hudds with probably finish bottom. Both are comfortably better than Wakefield last year. They will go in to the middle 8s with Salford who are a decent side, and either HKR or Widnes who are better than last year where they comfortably walked through the middle 8s.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a clean sweep of SL wins.'"
Leed and Huddersfield are much worse than any superleague side last year. Whether that effects against championship sides is debatable.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Leed and Huddersfield are much worse than any superleague side last year. Whether that effects against championship sides is debatable.'"
You clearly didn't see as much of Wakefield as we did then. Leeds and Huddersfield are far stronger this year than we were last year. I also feel the Championship clubs are now weaker.
I don't expect a SL club to be relegated but all it takes is a freak MPG.
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| Quote ="wildshot"You clearly didn't see as much of Wakefield as we did then. Leeds and Huddersfield are far stronger this year than we were last year. I also feel the Championship clubs are now weaker.
I don't expect a SL club to be relegated but all it takes is a freak MPG.'"
Yep - look at the results Leigh have achieved - they weren't far off beating a full strength Leeds. Leeds were just a bit off that day and nearly came a cropper.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Leed and Huddersfield are much worse than any superleague side last year. Whether that effects against championship sides is debatable.'"
I won't argue against your statement. I'll just leave it there as evidence of what we all already knew about you.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Yep - look at the results Leigh have achieved - they weren't far off beating a full strength Leeds. Leeds were just a bit off that day and nearly came a cropper.'"
Leeds were appalling and won pretty comfortably.
The MPG (which is the most idiotic part of this terrible system) could throw up a shock. But I doubt very strongly it will.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Leeds were appalling and won pretty comfortably.'"
Only if you consider winning comfortably as being level 12-12 with 7 minutes to go.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"I won't argue against your statement. I'll just leave it there as evidence of what we all already knew about you.'"
The board is for debating, that is what you should try and do, and back up your statement. You know nothing about me, but I am very well aware you are the village idiot.
As for the Wakefirld fan. Wakefield are no different to last, but the competition is worse. Hence the bottom teams are worse. I kind of agree with you on the championship. But the bottom team in superleague is as bad as any previous bottom team seen in superleague. However, the season isn't over yet.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"The board is for debating, that is what you should try and do, and back up your statement. You know nothing about me, but I am very well aware you are the village idiot.
As for the Wakefirld fan. Wakefield are no different to last, but the competition is worse. Hence the bottom teams are worse. I kind of agree with you on the championship. But the bottom team in superleague is as bad as any previous bottom team seen in superleague.'"
I don't need to argue against your nonsense. Nothing I could say would damn you as much as your own words do.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"I don't need to argue against your nonsense. Nothing I could say would damn you as much as your own words do.'"
Irony. Nice.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Leeds were appalling and won pretty comfortably.
The MPG (which is the most idiotic part of this terrible system) could throw up a shock. But I doubt very strongly it will.'"
We must agree to differ - I think the score was close well into the last 10 minutes - yes Leeds were off so who is to say Leeds wouldn't be off in the MPG?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"We must agree to differ - I think the score was close well into the last 10 minutes - yes Leeds were off so who is to say Leeds wouldn't be off in the MPG?'"
Leeds won by three scores and Leigh didnt score after the 13th minute.
I know there is a bit of a competition on here to make things seem as bad as they can, the middle 8's suddenly becoming relegation, we are worse than Wakefield last year, even london the year before and Leigh in 2005 laughably, but lets be honest, there is a reason those players arent playing in SL
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| About 6 weeks ago my missus jokingly said "imagine Leeds and Bradford in the MPG..." - I'm wishing she'd put a bet on it now.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"John Kear he seems to be everyone's Mr fix-it
I am sure they have someone lined up - let's hope its quick the thought of Andy Kelly in charge for any length of time is a scary one.'"
McNamara obvs.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"John Kear he seems to be everyone's Mr fix-it
I am sure they have someone lined up - let's hope its quick the thought of Andy Kelly in charge for any length of time is a scary one.'"
Andy Kelly is a good coach who was doing a great job at wakefield until the Pearman debacle! I'm also told he's doing a good job with the kids at Huddersfield now.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Leeds won by three scores and Leigh didnt score after the 13th minute.
I know there is a bit of a competition on here to make things seem as bad as they can, the middle 8's suddenly becoming relegation, we are worse than Wakefield last year, even london the year before and Leigh in 2005 laughably, but lets be honest, there is a reason those players arent playing in SL'"
I trust that you would be willing to agree that this has been one of, if not the worst, title defence in Rugby League history...?
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| Quote ="Peter Mannion"I trust that you would be willing to agree that this has been one of, if not the worst, title defence in Rugby League history...?'"
Why limit that to rugby league?
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| Quote ="Peter Mannion"I trust that you would be willing to agree that this has been one of, if not the worst, title defence in Rugby League history...?'"
As DHM says .....why only in RL? I am increasingly amazed at how far the team has fallen and I'm not yet convinced the fall has been arrested.
I don't consider myself intolerant, but the degrees of tolerance shown by those with the power to change things astounds me. Championship footie beckons.
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| The million pound game gives the S L club a second chance and the championship club very little chance . Must agree Leeds V Bradford would be an interesting game. .
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| Quote ="Lockers700"Andy Kelly is a good coach who was doing a great job at wakefield until the Pearman debacle! I'm also told he's doing a good job with the kids at Huddersfield now.'"
Kelly is an exceptional coach at junior level - that is a world away from coaching at elite senior level.
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