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Betts seems to think we can make our loan signings permanent. Not sure how much truth is in this but if true I'd be over the moon, be better than a new signing. Class player
www.trustinwidnes.com/forum/inde ... 974.0.html
Maybe he knows he has a cemented position at widnes were Leeds squad offers a lot more quality.
We'll see
And before you say, I know he's on a five year contract
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Betts seems to think we can make our loan signings permanent. Not sure how much truth is in this but if true I'd be over the moon, be better than a new signing. Class player
www.trustinwidnes.com/forum/inde ... 974.0.html
Maybe he knows he has a cemented position at widnes were Leeds squad offers a lot more quality.
We'll see
And before you say, I know he's on a five year contract
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| Quote ="Frosties."Noticed that he hasnt played a game for the U20s at all this season, so I wouldnt be surprised. Any idea where he has gone?'"
Back to Cumbria as far as I know, apperently once he gained his fitness after injury Brian Mc had him mowing the grass at HQ then called him in and released him. He shared a house with Brad Singleton and when Brad come home from training at Dewsbury all Jareds stuff had gone and they had moved somebody else in!!!
Being told by Brian Mc to mow the lawn tells you exactly what he thought of the lad
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| If that's true then thats a c##*s trick.
I was speaking to JW at the 9's and he seemed in good spirits and looking forward to getting back playing for the u20's after a nightmare time with injuries!!.
As for Mcshane he's clearly a better all round 9 than Lunt but his future looks elsewhere another master-stroke by our coach/club.
What next talk a 35yr old Prop running ion empty out of retriring??.........................Oh wait a minute
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| Quote ="rhinoms"If that's true then thats a c##*s trick.
I was speaking to JW at the 9's and he seemed in good spirits and looking forward to getting back playing for the u20's after a nightmare time with injuries!!.
As for Mcshane he's clearly a better all round 9 than Lunt but his future looks elsewhere another master-stroke by our coach/club.
What next talk a 35yr old Prop running ion empty out of retriring??.........................Oh wait a minute'"
yeah its true I wouldve stuck one on him if i had been in Jareds shoes but bein only 5ft nowt it would be a low blow!
I think Lunts ok but thats all and Mcshane is better now with far less experience than Lunt he needs bringing back and given the game time he shouldve had this season
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| Quote ="Leeds lover"Back to Cumbria as far as I know, apperently once he gained his fitness after injury Brian Mc had him mowing the grass at HQ then called him in and released him. He shared a house with Brad Singleton and when Brad come home from training at Dewsbury all Jareds stuff had gone and they had moved somebody else in!!!
Being told by Brian Mc to mow the lawn tells you exactly what he thought of the lad
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I'd be very surprised if that's true, knowing how paranoid the groundsman and his staff are over who touches their beloved pitches.
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Quote ="Viva La Vikings!!"Betts seems to think we can make our loan signings permanent. Not sure how much truth is in this but if true I'd be over the moon, be better than a new signing. Class player
www.trustinwidnes.com/forum/inde ... 974.0.html
Maybe he knows he has a cemented position at widnes were Leeds squad offers a lot more quality.
We'll see
And before you say, I know he's on a five year contract'"
Betts doesnt mention Mcshane he only talks about the Wigan loanies and before you say owt I have read the article its the journo that mentions leeds not Betts
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Quote ="Viva La Vikings!!"Betts seems to think we can make our loan signings permanent. Not sure how much truth is in this but if true I'd be over the moon, be better than a new signing. Class player
www.trustinwidnes.com/forum/inde ... 974.0.html
Maybe he knows he has a cemented position at widnes were Leeds squad offers a lot more quality.
We'll see
And before you say, I know he's on a five year contract'"
Betts doesnt mention Mcshane he only talks about the Wigan loanies and before you say owt I have read the article its the journo that mentions leeds not Betts
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| Quote ="Leeds lover"Back to Cumbria as far as I know, apperently once he gained his fitness after injury Brian Mc had him mowing the grass at HQ then called him in and released him. He shared a house with Brad Singleton and when Brad come home from training at Dewsbury all Jareds stuff had gone and they had moved somebody else in!!!
Being told by Brian Mc to mow the lawn tells you exactly what he thought of the lad
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I'd be very surprised if the Leeds ground staff allowed this to happen.
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| All a matter of opinion but right now I wouldn't have McShane in my side ahead of Lunt. Other than an extra kicking option he doesn't offer anything to offset his tendency to go too high defensively.
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| ABC Radio call in Aus just said that Heighington was coming over to the UK with Ellis.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"All a matter of opinion but right now I wouldn't have McShane in my side ahead of Lunt. Other than an extra kicking option he doesn't offer anything to offset his tendency to go too high defensively.'"
I think that most people have McShane in a similar bracket to Lunt, with both having some positives over the other. I think people's problem is that if we were to settle for a player in that ball park of ability, why bother shipping one out to bring in a replacement of similar ability, with arguably less potential
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"All a matter of opinion but right now I wouldn't have McShane in my side ahead of Lunt. Other than an extra kicking option he doesn't offer anything to offset his tendency to go too high defensively.'"
Mcshanes cut out pass is far better than Lunts ,his go forward from DH is better imo and also he offers more versatility ,is young enough to still improve and defending is hardly Lunts strong point either.
Mcshane for me every time.
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| What versatility? He's played a handful of games in the 20s at scrum half - not a position Leeds are short in.
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| McShane didn't look quite ready to me when he left on loan. I struggled to see what the fuss was about to be honest.
If a sustained run of games at the slightly lower pressure environment at Widnes (no disrespect intended, but expectations are a little different currently) has fixed that he could be an asset next season.
I also harboured a few suspicions about his attitude. Which may be groundless, but there is always more to being part of a squad than just what we see on the field at the weekend, as much as most folk on here seem to be able to coach a side without seeing what happens on the training pitch. Much as the odd poster seems to think he/she would happily select academy players they've never seen play a game... or have left the club.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"What versatility? He's played a handful of games in the 20s at scrum half - not a position Leeds are short in.'"
He has also played at 13 and done it well.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Mcshanes cut out pass is far better than Lunts ,his go forward from DH is better imo and also he offers more versatility ,is young enough to still improve and defending is hardly Lunts strong point either.
Mcshane for me every time.'"
I dissagree.
Agree on the cut out pass, and would also had kicking. But I think Lunt is far more versatile and much better than McShane.
Personally, I think Lunt has been a lot better than given credit for. Has with other players he has been asked to change his game to suit a new style by a coach who is just clueless, but that isn't the players fault. At times you have what Lunt can bring to the table given the opportunity.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"McShane didn't look quite ready to me when he left on loan. I struggled to see what the fuss was about to be honest.
If a sustained run of games at the slightly lower pressure environment at Widnes (no disrespect intended, but expectations are a little different currently) has fixed that he could be an asset next season.
I also harboured a few suspicions about his attitude. Which may be groundless, but there is always more to being part of a squad than just what we see on the field at the weekend, as much as most folk on here seem to be able to coach a side without seeing what happens on the training pitch. Much as the odd poster seems to think he/she would happily select academy players they've never seen play a game... or have left the club.'"
You're just being pedantic.
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| Swap you Jon Clarke? Go on?
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| Quote ="Viva La Vikings!!"Swap you Jon Clarke? Go on?'"
I'd rather live in Widnes
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| Quote ="Viva La Vikings!!"Swap you Jon Clarke? Go on?'"
Our esteemed coach probably would to be honest
He seems to prefer crumbling wrecks and yes-men in the forwards: if he fits either of those descriptions I think you're in with a chance.
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| Interesting comment from Barrie McDermott in the YEP about next season. Any of the players outside the first team squad who aren't eligible for the new Under 19 competition will be at Hunslet - presumably on dual reg.
I can see a few of the current Under 20s finding their time at Leeds coming to an end.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Interesting comment from Barrie McDermott in the YEP about next season. Any of the players outside the first team squad who aren't eligible for the new Under 19 competition will be at Hunslet - presumably on dual reg.
I can see a few of the current Under 20s finding their time at Leeds coming to an end.'"
Pete Smith has said theres quite alot that are leaving the club due to this happening, IE Colton Roche. Pete Smith is trying to collect a list of names leaving from the club. And from what it would seem to me that Brooke Broughton is leaving Warrington Wolves due to the change.
Also, the Jamie Lyon rumour is gaining momentum now, the SLTV guy has just tweeted it.
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| Someone, somewhere must be peeing themselves starting that one off.
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| Think whoever believes that we've signed Lyon is well and truly been punk'd!!
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| Looks like we've missed the boat on Amor.
Hull FC have been given permission to speak to him after offering/agreeing a fee with Wakefield.
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| I'd love it if we signed Lyon, mostly because of the collective episode the Saints board would have.
We won't though.
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