It was never going to be a quick fix,we are on the right road,time and patience(plus a few signings) and we will get there!

I wonder how close to kick off leeming had to pull out, it clearly disrupted us.

Weve got a horrid month ahead with fixtures we really need to pick up a win or two in that period

Shame that Austin kick to newman didn’t pan out, at least it was good to see us put on plays like that

Agreed. We’ll have plenty of ups n downs this season. A way to go yet to get this squad up to standard. Pack is the big problem for me.

Totally agree .

Losses are never fun but at least they make sure we all remember that there are glaring holes in the squad that no coach can fix. The defence can definitely be worked on - we got rolled easily by Warrington last week and we need to do better, or decent teams will take us apart no matter how fluent our attack is. To be fair we were lacking two of our best backrows, but our lack of grunt up front will seriously inhibit our chances in a lot of games.

Talks like he’s a multiple NRL winning coach!

There was some improvement in the second half, but it’s clear to see that works still to be done. Also didn’t help that 3 of our most consistent performers this year in handley, Martin and Donaldson were under par-as most were tbf.

I’m at a loss with Tet and Prior atm. Prior looks a shadow of his former self, despite trying hard, and then Tets first stint was just so ineffectual (thought his second was marginally better) and both of them are effecting Mik because he’s having to attempt to do so much.

As good as they were, and as poor as we were at times I actually think the game swings on a couple of interceptions, not in terms of result but in terms of being a tight game. Im a way it didn’t reflect how poor we were, but IMO shows some improvement because earlier in the season I reckon that would have been a 50 point drubbing. Its just a reflection of where we are atm.

Prior has been a really good signing for us but this is a season too far. He’s not the type of prop we desperately need, and in typical Leeds fashion of recent times, he’s under contract for next season too. I’d be looking to pay him off somehow.

We need at least 2 dominating props to come in. Warrington are in the same boat and have been proactive, we just paddle along hoping things will turn out okay. We’ve been in this predicament for around 6 years. It’s unacceptable

Agree with this. We’ve missed Ava since his short stay. Prior May retire at end of the season in which case we need 2 more some would say 3. I’d be surprised to see Tetevano ask to leave early go back to NRL but the salary cap down there is about £5.2m to our £2.1m, so who knows if a team offer him a 2/3 year deal.

If both Prior and Tet go again next season we will need Holroyd to really come on and and add a 5th prop of some quality.

If I was getting the chequebook out then I don’t think we’d go far wrong with Wilson from the giants, thought he was the best prop on the field last night. High impact and meter making paired with a high workrate. Exactly what we’re missing.

Did someone say Priors missus is expecting? I’d imagine that could play into any decision if I’ve not just plucked it out of thin air.

I just worry that GH message on being behind with recruitment was getting the excuses in early. Smith only needed to watch a couple of games on tape to identify the glaring weakness in the front row.

The front row is definitely a problem, but most of the Giants' tries were scored through poor edge defence on both sides of the field. That can be fixed, particularly if we get Gannon and Bentley back in the line. Lack of oomph just comes back to lack of big forwards.

Couple of problems with that
Gary doesn’t like to get his checkbook out- he relied on Leeds winning to be able to recruit players.
Why would Wilson want to leave Huddersfield- with the best coach in the SL - to go to Leeds?
He’s only 23 - still a lot of improvement in him yet so hands off!

Oliver is the best young prop in SL - he is in the perfect set up, great coach and the best conditioner in the league. Could be a surprise call up for England in the WC if Wane can get past his Lancs. bias.

Huddersfield are a top 4 side and I wouldn't be surprised to see them in the GF - we were poor but they made us poor.

Ava is exactly the sort of player we need! I fear for Oledzki if the burden is not eased soon too.

Im still enjoying Smith’s pressers just for the disdain he seems to showing the rubbish questions from the journalists



Ive watched the highlights back now, Hudds were the better team by a distance but there’s a couple of things we can take from it, we scored some decent trys against a team with a very strong defensive record.

I think a few of their trys are things we can fix up defensively, take the calamity that was mcqueens try out of it and I think its s closer game - same with Prior dropping the ball from the drop out when we had the momentum.

Interesting to see how we fair against ssints in 2 weeks!

Indeed as practically every time we’ve played Saints in SL these past 4 years or so they’ve blown us away in the first 20 mins and the scoreboard has often looked like it did last night after 20-25 mins and got a lot worse from there.

We’ve not been able to stand up to Saints pack in recent times and often Walmsley has destroyed us on his own and as our front row options are still a major issue, I’m not hopeful.

I never said he would, certainly not at this point in time, with both clubs where they currently are. Just saying that he is distinctly what we’re missing to go alongside Mik and if he ever gets fit and unbanned, Holroyd.

Trouts also turned into a solid prop who we did have on our books.

If anything I’m complimenting Wilson who I don’t think gets the same praise as some of the Wigan forwards or even Mik.

Didn't get there last night and only seen the highlights, but I did fear the worst when I saw Leeming was missing. We got away with Myler in the halves at Wire because Leeming kicked well and shared it with Austin. As soon as we ask Myler to do any field kicking, things go badly wrong. Seven tackle sets, out on the full - there isn't a kick he doesn't do badly. Anyway glad to hear Newman came through unscathed and Fusitua did well. Hopefully next time we'll be as near to full strength as we are likely to get.

The effort from Tetevano and Dwyer for the last Giants try was an embarrassment. Tetevanos right up there with the worst signings we'v made in recent history. Sooner he's off the better.

Glad Smiths identified the lack of trust issues at the end of our line, Handley gifted them McGillverys try, the man he shot in on was already covered, no need to leave his wing.

we beat a poor warrington

It begs the question really of how poor are Warrington? I suppose we might find out when they play Wakefield tomorrow.

Also interesting to note from O’Connors interview that he was going to be 18th man before Leemings withdrawal.

What do you expect with Powell in charge - he has the ability to make a combined Saints/ Catalan/ Wigan squad relegation contenders - It always amuses me when Cas fans bleat about what Powell did for Cas - Well other than a minor premiership that no club values the answer is “Feck all”