Both mens and womens teams were blown away by St Helens in finals this year so I think a new coaching direction is needed at the club but will it be accepted?

Our men have responded well to Agar but what's needed is a Tony Smith. Sadly, I think the gap taking us from where we are now to winning a Grand Final next year is much bigger than what it was in 2004.

Where has this myth come from that Leeming is a poor passer off the floor?

by watching him?

By people with an agenda who want a scapegoat, Dream team hooker this year but sone fans think he’s c*** and want him replacing with a kid who has commitment issues and has only played championship.

Lets see if Cory Johnson still wants to be a professional RL in 9-12 months time before we start giving him the 9 shirt.

dream team? he isnt even in top 5 SL hookers.
he's in as he scored most points as a leeds player. a deeply flawed system.
it's called having an opinion, not an agenda mr foul mouth.
try discussing like a grown up, it's what a forum Is for

Throws teddy out of pram because someone does not agree with his flawed logic then tells someone else to grow up,
Fact he ended up dream team hooker and you dont like it because you dont like him.

no, it's called having an opinion.
without swearing or ranting.
do I rate him? hes ok. no better imo.
you really think he was better than mcshane or Clarke last year?
the dream team had a few players who were, let's say, strange choices. no makinson but davies and sio? I know which I'd rather have

Leeming wouldn’t be our weakest link right now. The club obviously rates him. I’d like to see him have an injury-free season spent at 9.

We’ll know if Johnson’s head is properly back on by the time we start next season. If it is he will put serious pressure on Dwyer for a bench spot, or to start if Leeming gets injured.

I rate Leeming and don't particularly think his passing is as weak as some poster's think. I suspect the coaching staff think the same. Leeming and Johnson could form a 9 partnership for many seasons.

Leeming is a decent improving player. Hes had to play in the halves for part of the year and has done so manfully but we need him back at 9 next year. His passing is better than Dwyer, anyones is, but his contact in defence and decision making in attack needs to improve for me. Hes settled in at Leeds now and is on an upward curve.

arty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:
Leeming is a decent improving player. Hes had to play in the halves for part of the year and has done so manfully but we need him back at 9 next year. His passing is better than Dwyer, anyones is, but his contact in defence and decision making in attack needs to improve for me. Hes settled in at Leeds now and is on an upward curve.
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Well said and totally agree

Interested again to see how our end of season review goes.

We’re in a strong and progressive place overall.

We will need both the right new signings and the best staff support in SL to leapfrog Saints from here.

Unless Saints drop off badly it will be a struggle to overtake them and they look to have recruited well. More realistic is overtaking Catalans and Warrington and being a top 2/3 team. Possibly realistic to win CC again injuries will play a part but who knows what hand we get dealt by Lady Luck!!

These are elite athletes - expecting them to have a high proficiency in basic skills is surely not asking that much. If you want to see a hooker with good technique - take a look at the hooker for the Rhinos ladies side

As I posted on another thread not taking away from how good a side they’ve been but I think Saints have had a very kind hand dealt to them on the injury front these last couple of years. Also going into last years grand final they were super fresh as barely played in the run up to the playoffs because of covid. They’re due a bit of bad luck.

The talk of this Saints team being one of the best ever is hogwash. Both Leeds and Saints have had better sides.

I was thinking the same thing watching it yesterday!

The lack of injuries in the Saints side is less about luck and more about conditioning and physical technique. Nobody runs the ball back harder than Saints because of which they tend to dominate the tackle so the chance of injury is reduced. They are also very quick of the mark in defence so the attack has limited time to build up speed into the tackle once again they are on the front foot.

H was head coach at Hull 13 seasons ago, he really isn't a young coach anymore. He's done better at Leeds than I imagined but at Hull it was always felt that he toed the line from Kath Hetherington, when it was insinuated there was a conflict of interest occurring with Gary being the supremo at Leeds. For what its worth stick a great coach in that seat, with the squad you are assembling and you will be definite challengers. I don't see too many better squads than yours, with Agar at the helm, you may well be nearly men though.

Serious about rl are saying we are set to appoint a new head coach for 2022

But nobody else is including club, Peter Smith and Matt Shaw. Wonder if Ryan Carr might be part of a possible 2023 succession plan.

That site's absolute clickbait mate, don't pay attention to it.
They'll just be picking up on what's already been dismissed by credible sources.

Yes your probably right, just thought I’d mention it on the off chance

I'd discount peter smith too. he writes what he's told to write

I think Agar is probably a good man manager. As for change of coach ? As the saying goes no smoke without fire . Remember when Powell was replaced y Tony Smith to Bring on the golden generation.

There was zero smoke before that change though.