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| A good contest , dont make me laugh and Christopher there are a few you named there got a bit to prove , at the moment i am worried we could be none from five and i dare not look any further
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To hopefully clear the "was it concussion or something else" in the above article the club stated that it WAS concussion & that Hurrell was going through the various protocols this week.
As I've stated before, he went off in the game (played late Sunday afternoon), 8 days protocol (even if he passes before the 8 days are up) takes it to Monday. If he can come back before the 8 days are up , what is the point of the 8 day protocol?
Please enlighten me if this logic is incorrect.
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To hopefully clear the "was it concussion or something else" in the above article the club stated that it WAS concussion & that Hurrell was going through the various protocols this week.
As I've stated before, he went off in the game (played late Sunday afternoon), 8 days protocol (even if he passes before the 8 days are up) takes it to Monday. If he can come back before the 8 days are up , what is the point of the 8 day protocol?
Please enlighten me if this logic is incorrect.
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| Leeds should be in trouble for keeping him on when it was clear he had a bang to the head that looked like concussion at the time
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"A good contest , dont make me laugh and Christopher there are a few you named there got a bit to prove , at the moment i am worried we could be none from five and i dare not look any further'"
Of course they have something to prove, i’m just giving them more than one game before writing them off.
Why don’t you think the game against the Giants will be a good contest?
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| Quote ="Steves"What award?
The one with no atmosphere- or is that just because nobody turns up to watch. Must be embarrassing when the away support is higher than the home. Never mind probably the highest gate of your season even if the wind will be blowing.
Just hope it doesn’t spoil what looks like a very good contest!'"
And the award for the stalest jibe in rugby league goes to.....
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"A good contest , dont make me laugh and Christopher there are a few you named there got a bit to prove , at the moment i am worried we could be none from five and i dare not look any further'"
I do hope your so wrong, cannot suffer another season like last year. I hoping Christopher is correct, he’s a positive chap, I’ve taken to listening to him, he gives me hope.
Looking at last nights results SL could be very tight this year in terms of points.
Talking to GH after last Sunday game ( he did not give a talk after the game but went to each table) he said they are various degree of concussion, is this true, he seemed to think that Hurrell would be ok for this game.
Looks like a different whack on the head carries different points etc.
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"A good contest , dont make me laugh and Christopher there are a few you named there got a bit to prove , at the moment i am worried we could be none from five and i dare not look any further'"
Last year it was Sir Kevin Sinfield on here that had his head in the sand. Christopher a clear winner this year.
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| No idea what levels of concussion there are, but I posted earlier in week after speaking to a player, that Hurrell did not feel right before game, and asked to be pulled out. What that was, was part of his issue in game.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Last year it was Sir Kevin Sinfield on here that had his head in the sand. Christopher a clear winner this year.'"
Well miserable moaning git of the year has many, many contenders on here every year, and its looking like a very strong category again this year.
Its good not only have you written the team off this year but you’ve picked the forum winners just after one game aswell.
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| Quote ="christopher"Well miserable moaning git of the year has many, many contenders on here every year, and its looking like a very strong category again this year.
Its good not only have you written the team off this year but you’ve picked the forum winners just after one game aswell.'"
Get your head out of the sandpit boy.
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| Quote ="christopher"Well miserable moaning git of the year has many, many contenders on here every year, and its looking like a very strong category again this year.
Its good not only have you written the team off this year but you’ve picked the forum winners just after one game aswell.'"
Moaning gits or voicing genuine concerns backed up by results & performances?
Now i agree the squad has improved from last year but its still way short of the power & quality we need to be genuine contenders agsin imho.
There other ways of making what we have stronger i.e Top Quality Coaching set up & the promising youngsters given genuine opportunities whithout signing has beens & journey men.
Again though the "evidence" proves otherwise , fwiw i dont demand or expect to win every game & win trophies every year but we had great success doing things right.
Those standards have fallen way below that & at Leeds it should be unacceptable.
You seem to mistake concern & genuine frustration as "just moaning" it isnt.
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| We have had loads of success and plenty of trophies in a golden period, some wonderful players that provided lots of memories but the team got old and recruitment was poor. It happened before after the great period of the mid 60’s through to the late 70’s. It’s similar to what happened at the end of the Revie period at United and with Man U at the end of Sir Alex’s reign.
The problem now is it will take some time to sort out because of salary cap compliance and although there are some good young ones coming through they are not in the league of Sinfield, McGuire and the rest. Teams like that don’t happen often.
So we can winge and moan as much as we like but it will be a year or two at least before we are back to winning things and that’s if we get recruitment right and the coaching settled.
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| Success is cyclical. People will try and tell you it doesn't have to be but it is so difficult to avoid for a whole host of reasons. The trick is trying not to fall too far when you are knocked off your perch.
It could be worse, we could be Warrington, hull, CAS. All clubs with good teams but a dusty trophy cabinet.
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| Success is cyclical that is true , but I'm still dreading another terrible start to the season ,out of contention before halfway and results picking up in last few games . Stuff of nightmares. Let's see how we go today
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| Success is cyclical, but the amount off the pace we are is unacceptable. We have the best resources of any team in the country, we should never have been allowed to slip so low.
However once we have, it will take time to amend. We should employ a top coach to get the best out of a limited squad. I'm not sure that Agar is that man
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| Cant see the game going ahead today with this weather.... atrocious conditions
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Moaning gits or voicing genuine concerns backed up by results & performances?
Now i agree the squad has improved from last year but its still way short of the power & quality we need to be genuine contenders agsin imho.
There other ways of making what we have stronger i.e Top Quality Coaching set up & the promising youngsters given genuine opportunities whithout signing has beens & journey men.
Again though the "evidence" proves otherwise , fwiw i dont demand or expect to win every game & win trophies every year but we had great success doing things right.
Those standards have fallen way below that & at Leeds it should be unacceptable.
You seem to mistake concern & genuine frustration as "just moaning" it isnt.'"
And you and a few others seem to mistake me not writing the whole season off after one game as sticking my head in the sand, you can’t have it both ways.
FWIW people on here have been just as miserable and constantly had a go at the club when weve been winning trophies.
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| Spot on Eagle/Lionarmour.
Success being cyclical doesn't excuse the mis-management & level of decline in standards of Players/Teams & Coaching ALL of those are controllable.
We've d!cked around too long with average squad players poor signings & hiring staff who haveny "earned teir position or aren't good enough".
The "he's cheap & will do a job" acceptence is just wrong imo especially where the aforementioned youngsters could do a job & versatility with the existing players could be utilised.
Age is a number if they're good enough or at least have the potential are Coached well then they deserve gametime imo.
Yes not every squad member can be a seasoned international or quality solid pro but thats why we have an Acadamy.
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| I am sure Agar is NOT that man
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| Quote ="christopher"And you and a few others seem to mistake me not writing the whole season off after one game as sticking my head in the sand, you can’t have it both ways.
FWIW people on here have been just as miserable and constantly had a go at the club when weve been winning trophies.'"
I havent once said you've got your head in the sand & again im repeatinh myself this isnt just 1 game its the same old rudderless dross going into its 3rd year, the same mistakes the same bizzarre selections the same poor signings with glaring gaps in the squad desperate for quality.
Lets not forget Agars quotes about Merrin or Sinfield declaring lessons have been learned & we wont be signing players not worthy of the shirt.
As for being miserable after winnjng trophies you're way off & taking things out of context & confusing post game comments for Whole season opinions.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"I havent once said you've got your head in the sand & again im repeatinh myself this isnt just 1 game its the same old rudderless dross going into its 3rd year, the same mistakes the same bizzarre selections the same poor signings with glaring gaps in the squad desperate for quality.
Lets not forget Agars quotes about Merrin or Sinfield declaring lessons have been learned & we wont be signing players not worthy of the shirt.
As for being miserable after winnjng trophies you're way off & taking things out of context & confusing post game comments for Whole season opinions.'"
I just can’t remember anything resembling a positive or even non negative post from you, maybe I’m getting you confused.
Going over and over and over the same points is making the forum hard work. And it is about one game because you are not giving any time to see if the new signings are going to make a difference, you are declaring it ‘same old rudderless dross’ after one game.
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| We’re one game in, winning today would be helpful but losing isn’t the end of the world. It’s going to take us a few years to clear away the crap that has built up over the last few years, and we will make mistakes in every department along the way.
It’s rugby, not life or death.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"We’re one game in, winning today would be helpful but losing isn’t the end of the world. It’s going to take us a few years to clear away the crap that has built up over the last few years, and we will make mistakes in every department along the way.
It’s rugby, not life or death.'"
I’m not sure whatever the result, will tell us much about how both teams will fair this season, unless we’re planning on playing in monsoon conditions every week!
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