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| I think the answer is pretty much anyone. Our game is not exactly awash with cash, most clubs would look to release a player if the money on the table was enough. I’m not saying we could sign anyone because we are Leeds, but even in our current position the club would be a big drawcard.
We’ve left it too late to bring in an Aussie, so it would have to be someone over here already, I’d be going all out for Hastings, on a 2+ year deal allowing him to go with 6 months notice, as long as we get a a fee the same as we paid for him.
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| Quote ="christopher"Who’s available that does though?'"
So we just settle for whats available?
Lui isn't as good as many are making out its part of the reason he's been at Salford so long & onky chased by KR another relegation threatenrd team until KS turned up with 65k hoping for some magic beans.
Whether he is better than poundland lolohea or average Sutcliffe is neither here nor there. At Salford he has a genuine 7 a HB General which is what we need not the off the cuff try whatever springs up past his best 6.
Also they have a settled squad with a good solid game plan they're all used to we dont.
This idea we're getting the second coming of Thurston is ridiculous its not disrespectful to call an average player just that & a Wife Beater something GH was so agzinst.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"I think the answer is pretty much anyone. Our game is not exactly awash with cash, most clubs would look to release a player if the money on the table was enough. I’m not saying we could sign anyone because we are Leeds, but even in our current position the club would be a big drawcard.
We’ve left it too late to bring in an Aussie, so it would have to be someone over here already, I’d be going all out for Hastings, on a 2+ year deal allowing him to go with 6 months notice, as long as we get a a fee the same as we paid for him.'"
What makes you think they haven't tried to do this and Hastings doesnt want to come? Arrogance of our supporters at its finest.. Lui is a fine player lets give the club n the guy a chance..
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| How is that arrogant? I said I’d be going all out to get him, I didn’t say he’d come?
Bit of an over reaction there mate.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"I think the answer is pretty much anyone. Our game is not exactly awash with cash, most clubs would look to release a player if the money on the table was enough. I’m not saying we could sign anyone because we are Leeds, but even in our current position the club would be a big drawcard.
We’ve left it too late to bring in an Aussie, so it would have to be someone over here already, I’d be going all out for Hastings, on a 2+ year deal allowing him to go with 6 months notice, as long as we get a a fee the same as we paid for him.'"
I’m sure they’ve tried to get Hastings, getting a a player to move mid season is hardly a straightforward thing and the player and club have got to want it to happen.
Youve also no idea who they have or haven’t approached
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"How is that arrogant? I said I’d be going all out to get him, I didn’t say he’d come?
Bit of an over reaction there mate.'"
Ok apologies bud. Thing is we probably are or have tried to go all out for Hastings. Just because its looking like our first signing is Lui it doesnt mean that the club isnt doing all it can. Lui will improve us significantly.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"How is that arrogant? I said I’d be going all out to get him, I didn’t say he’d come?
Bit of an over reaction there mate.'"
It's not arrogance mate it's just a typical "Happy Clapper Super-fan" response because you're not joining the "welcome new hero" parade and don't rate Lui as highly as he does.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"So we just settle for whats available?
Lui isn't as good as many are making out its part of the reason he's been at Salford so long & onky chased by KR another relegation threatenrd team until KS turned up with 65k hoping for some magic beans.
Whether he is better than poundland lolohea or average Sutcliffe is neither here nor there. At Salford he has a genuine 7 a HB General which is what we need not the off the cuff try whatever springs up past his best 6.
Also they have a settled squad with a good solid game plan they're all used to we dont.
This idea we're getting the second coming of Thurston is ridiculous its not disrespectful to call an average player just that & a Wife Beater something GH was so agzinst.'"
Your posts are getting more hyperbolic by the day.
Whether he is better than what we have is everything not neither here nor there.
Where has anyone suggested it’s the next coming of Thurston don’t be ridiculous.
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| Quote ="christopher"I’m sure they’ve tried to get Hastings, getting a a player to move mid season is hardly a straightforward thing and the player and club have got to want it to happen.
Youve also no idea who they have or haven’t approached'"
Correct. Im getting fed up of some of our fans putting a downer on a signing like Lui at this stage of the season. Its bizarre..
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"It's not arrogance mate it's just a typical "Happy Clapper Super-fan" response because you're not joining the "welcome new hero" parade and don't rate Lui as highly as he does.'"
Lol give your head a shake.
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| Quote ="Trebor1"Correct. Im getting fed up of some of our fans putting a downer on a signing like Lui at this stage of the season. Its bizarre..'"
To be honest it’s getting tiresome, it’s nearly impossible to have a grown up conversation
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| Quote ="christopher"To be honest it’s getting tiresome, it’s nearly impossible to have a grown up conversation'"
It is Christopher.. the club look like theyre making a good mid season signing who will improve our chances of staying up no end. Salford fans are gutted hes going yet people are criticising the club for the signing..
Its the form of the criticisms the most bizarre for me.
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| Quote ="Trebor1"Ok apologies bud. Thing is we probably are or have tried to go all out for Hastings. Just because its looking like our first signing is Lui it doesnt mean that the club isnt doing all it can. Lui will improve us significantly.'"
No taken pal, different opinions are what a board is for. FWIW I’m not really criticising the club about the Lui case, I just think we have a different priority which we might well be trying to address too.
Not easy being a Leeds fan at the moment is it...
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| Let's wait for the press announcement/conference 1st and see what actually is happening.
Then let's see how Lui settles in if indeed we have signed him.
Weve a big 10 games coming up and we need as much help as we can get.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"No taken pal, different opinions are what a board is for.'"
Agreed pal. Fingers crossed it all works out. Think we're all a bit concerned with the state of affairs lol
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"No taken pal, different opinions are what a board is for. FWIW I’m not really criticising the club about the Lui case, I just think we have a different priority which we might well be trying to address too.
Not easy being a Leeds fan at the moment is it...'"
Its awful at the moment.. been watching them for 34 years and this is the most concerning time i can remember apart from the year workington saved us from relegation
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| Quote ="christopher"Your posts are getting more hyperbolic by the day.
Whether he is better than what we have is everything not neither here nor there.
Where has anyone suggested it’s the next coming of Thurston don’t be ridiculous.'"
Hyperbolic?
Ok I suppose I should apologise for not being a super-fan and applauding every signing "Sir Kev" has made because they are all really really good players according to some and will improve us!
Lui is an average 6 imo his last 3yrs playing record backs that up in that he's been at Salford for so long now many can take that as disrespectful but their best players get picked off year after year he hasn't.
Then there's the question of fitness he has 1 good knee so is that worth 65k?
We lack a General at HB a genuine Leader with an all round kicking game ,creative passing game and someone who can win a tight game on their own from nothing.
Lui is neither of the above he is a maverick who can do a few things well when he has that commanding 7 alongside him we don't have that.
Lui is more of a maverick like Dwyer who plays more off the cuff do we need that 6 and 9 without the aforementioned 7?
Now EVERY FAN who knows RL knows what we need and Lui ticks 1 box at most and none pf the key ones we haven't had since Mcguire & Sinfield left.
Just ad the cherry on top every one of those lauding his arrival have conveniently ignored he's a wife beater GH hypocrisy at its finest.
Is that grown up and detailed enough for you?
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Hyperbolic?
Ok I suppose I should apologise for not being a super-fan and applauding every signing "Sir Kev" has made because they are all really really good players according to some and will improve us!
Lui is an average 6 imo his last 3yrs playing record backs that up in that he's been at Salford for so long now many can take that as disrespectful but their best players get picked off year after year he hasn't.
Then there's the question of fitness he has 1 good knee so is that worth 65k?
We lack a General at HB a genuine Leader with an all round kicking game ,creative passing game and someone who can win a tight game on their own from nothing.
Lui is neither of the above he is a maverick who can do a few things well when he has that commanding 7 alongside him we don't have that.
Lui is more of a maverick like Dwyer who plays more off the cuff do we need that 6 and 9 without the aforementioned 7?
Now EVERY FAN who knows RL knows what we need and Lui ticks 1 box at most and none pf the key ones we haven't had since Mcguire & Sinfield left.
Just ad the cherry on top every one of those lauding his arrival have conveniently ignored he's a wife beater GH hypocrisy at its finest.
Is that grown up and detailed enough for you?'"
It’s detailed but not very grown up.
Where are you getting the dodgy knee from he’s pretty much being in the side consistently since joining Salford.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Let's wait for the press announcement/conference 1st and see what actually is happening.
Then let's see how Lui settles in if indeed we have signed him.
Weve a big 10 games coming up and we need as much help as we can get.'"
That last sentence yes - the time for fundamental repairs is over the closed season. Right now it’s all hands on deck, and that includes supporters.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Hyperbolic? '"
Well not all the time...
Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Ok I suppose I should apologise for not being a super-fan and applauding every signing "Sir Kev" has made because they are all really really good players according to some and will improve us '"
Oh...never mind.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Hyperbolic?
Ok I suppose I should apologise for not being a super-fan and applauding every signing "Sir Kev" has made because they are all really really good players according to some and will improve us!
Lui is an average 6 imo his last 3yrs playing record backs that up in that he's been at Salford for so long now many can take that as disrespectful but their best players get picked off year after year he hasn't.
Then there's the question of fitness he has 1 good knee so is that worth 65k?
We lack a General at HB a genuine Leader with an all round kicking game ,creative passing game and someone who can win a tight game on their own from nothing.
Lui is neither of the above he is a maverick who can do a few things well when he has that commanding 7 alongside him we don't have that.
Lui is more of a maverick like Dwyer who plays more off the cuff do we need that 6 and 9 without the aforementioned 7?
Now EVERY FAN who knows RL knows what we need and Lui ticks 1 box at most and none pf the key ones we haven't had since Mcguire & Sinfield left.
Just ad the cherry on top every one of those lauding his arrival have conveniently ignored he's a wife beater GH hypocrisy at its finest.
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It’s worth bearing in mind that our “draw” for top players in the open market might not be as strong as we would like to think. We can only sign players who want to join the club, and who we can afford.
If Lui comes, it might be that he’s just the best/only option we have right now. It’s common knowledge we’re interested in Hastings and have sniffed around Maloney too.
Many of KS signings have been cheap and cheerful squad fillers; some others have been OK. He has the task of unravelling 4 years or so of p-poor recruitment and many of those under long-term contracts still - it is a mess.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"It’s worth bearing in mind that our “draw” for top players in the open market might not be as strong as we would like to think. We can only sign players who want to join the club, and who we can afford.
If Lui comes, it might be that he’s just the best/only option we have right now. It’s common knowledge we’re interested in Hastings and have sniffed around Maloney too.
Many of KS signings have been cheap and cheerful squad fillers; some others have been OK. He has the task of unravelling 4 years or so of p-poor recruitment and many of those under long-term contracts still - it is a mess.'"
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"It’s worth bearing in mind that our “draw” for top players in the open market might not be as strong as we would like to think. We can only sign players who want to join the club, and who we can afford.
If Lui comes, it might be that he’s just the best/only option we have right now. It’s common knowledge we’re interested in Hastings and have sniffed around Maloney too.
Many of KS signings have been cheap and cheerful squad fillers; some others have been OK. He has the task of unravelling 4 years or so of p-poor recruitment and many of those under long-term contracts still - it is a mess.'"
Fair point re-draw for top players but id suggest it's not as though we've become lepers either.
I also know full well the scenario we face with regards to options but that doesn't mean because should it be our only option that it is the right one.
Crosby Thompson Ferres et al ALL were our only options and every one not needed not worth the money or the shirt.
That's a multiple winning GF/CC Prop and International BR and a SL BR with over 100 1st team apps decent CV's yet all poor signings.
As for them being cheap it doesn't mean we should accept mediocrity 65k and wages isn't small change id rather we kept it rather than accept whatever we could scrape together.
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| I'm surprised at the reaction from some on here maybe in terms of Rugby League some of you may think your the equivalent of Man City when it comes to money and who you think should be at your club. My guess is if Rob was coming from the NRL or even Saints it would be a masterstroke but Salford, how low have we come to be signing sh*t from them.
Let me tell you all Salford fans will be devastated if the *Star Man* leaves the Reds he is a quality top drawer player and maybe your people in charge know that better than some of you.
Also just to point out he has hardly ever missed a match in his time with us he's full value, a great player and person, and whilst he's an off the cuff player he ran the halves on his own last season when we had that joker Jack Littlejohn so he should be ok with that true Salford reject Myler.
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If, big if, we do sign Lui I think it's pretty obvious he isn't the type of player we all think we need. That doesn't make him a bad player, or even a bad signing, it's just not the very key signing that we probably need.
Will we better with him in, I would say so. Could he singlehandedly save us from relegation? I don't know, it's a squad game and one player can only do so much but he will give us a spark.
As for what Salford fans think about our reaction on here.. no offence but Im not interested in what they think really. Happy to have some banter but they will know as much about what we need as I do what they need.
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