Wouldn't be surprised to see him as Toronto's major 2020 signing.

Never the same player once Briscoe replaced BJB - they were a stand out pairing - another poor decision to let BJB go.

Didn’t BJB ask to leave to try and get a FB spot at another club?

Kallum receiving the ball in his stride from a line break was one amazing sight, for a time a missed tackle, as with Shenton, on Watkins was a try. Leeds this year have given him the ball stood still. In fact, Leeds this year have so few bodies in motion at the play the ball I have been able to read it, and if I can with my glacial speed of thought it explains why the Bradford pack could.

He's been shut down like Iestyn behind that Welsh pack. No go forward, no opportunities. Good luck to him with a line breaking SH

That is not my recall on the subject - but I could be wrong

Leeds were a different animal then, Hall Briscoe BJB all playing well, BJB was let go, rightly or wrongly, time will tell.

also says Leeds wanted to reduce his pay for the next 2 years - Maybe his contract included a guaranteed place in the 1st team, so that's why we cannot drop him on current performance ????

Quote ="Sal Paradise"That is not my recall on the subject - but I could be wrong'" "It will be sad for me to leave. It was a big decision to reject the offer of a longer contract last year, but I wanted to keep my options open," https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/27354754

Quote ="Sal Paradise"That is not my recall on the subject - but I could be wrong'" "It will be sad for me to leave. It was a big decision to reject the offer of a longer contract last year, but I wanted to keep my options open," https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/27354754

See above, he rejected a longer contract offer, he wasn't let go, he chose to leave.

has Briscoe been worse? really? I don't think so.

Sorry Chris, was talking about when BJB decided to leave, due to an abundance of quality at the time, BJB Hall Briscoe.

No he hasn't, he has played very well for us, he's had a few tips but he was really impressive in 2017 how he looked shot of confidence but turned it al around with some really strong performances.

The point was the understand Watkins and BJB had - that was never the same with Briscoe.

Completely agree Briscoe has been doing well.

The issue I have is that due to Watkins being caption he's getting sucked into the middle of the pack barking out orders leaving Briscoe on his own if you watch the tries we've conceded Briscoe is on his own the majority of the team defending against 2/3 players. Compared to Handley and Hurrell/Newman on the other side this hasn't been happening. Really bugs me people slating off Briscoe because what else is he meant to do.

Doesn't matter who the player is wingers and centres shouldn't be caption.

Unfortunately Briscoe still has an issue catching high balls

Very rare though, like every player has a bad game.

Do our wingers have an issue catching high balls or do they have an issue with a lack of protection from other players while catching a high ball???

Were the worst team I've ever seen for players standing and looking at the ball instead of getting in front of the catcher and blocking people off.

They have an issue with catching the ball.

There may be times where protection is not where it should be, but that doesn't the efforts Briscoe makes with kicks in 99 our of 100 cases. He is utterly pathetic with them. Sometimes he doesn't even jump, and others he flaps his hands up with absolutely no chance of catching, so why he does it nobody knows. How many times as Briscoe actually been penalised in attempting catches? I bet higher than any other winger out there. He is totally out of sorts when it comes to kicks, no excuses on that.

The rest of his game is very good, but the above is so bad it is a big problem for Leeds on a consistent basis.

He does a lot of hard yard work and is deceptively strong. He should score more though and you’re right he’s poor with kick defence. Someone was saying on here a while back that he struggles to raise his arm with previous shoulder injuries - either way it is a liability at times.
I’d still retain him other things being equal, dependant on his relative salary. He needs a centre who is in form and can create opportunities for him.

Always said we should give Tom Briscoe a game at hooker.

He's strong, can pass and faster than normal hookers.

His brothers best game for Leeds came at hooker for us. Why we never tried him there again, I don’t know, but he was very good that one game.

Lets get Hall back and play him in the 2nd row

Whereas I’m worried for Kal’s fitness, I would like to see him go to NRL, get back into form and show what he can do over there.
I’m still a bit shocked this has happened so quickly in the end.

I fear it’s a bad sign that they can’t move on the lesser players, who won’t agree as Watkins has because they are not wanted by anyone on the same coin

Someone like Cuthbertson will hang on like a limpet to his last year of contract, because he's on his last deal and his market value will have plummeted since the heady days of 2015. To 'get rid' of someone like him Leeds would almost certainly have to top up his salary.

I think there's more scope with players who might have some time on their contracts but are supposedly more in their prime. If they've got a further 2 or more years its hard, but when it gets down to just one more year they will need to start thinking about what happens next. Whilst they could hang on at Leeds, its quite possible they end up on loan or even playing reserves every week. Then their most likely move at the end of their contract will be semi pro like so many others - they will be seen as not SL standard, and whilst Leeds can't force them to go, who'd want to sign someone who was clearly more interested in playing out a contract regardless of getting picked than trying to show what they can do on the field?

Anyway, that's the conversation I'd be trying to have with some of these guys.