most people agree he deserved a 6-8 game ban. He got 6 so justice is served and you would expect Ferres' card to be well and truly marked now. That should be the end of the matter, don't see the point in droning on TBH.

Is it me or are seeing increased lengths of bans this year which people are still incredibly unhappy with?

The Ferres one I have no issue with as in some ways it's fairly unprecedented.

However, Singleton's seemed harsh when you compare it to similar things from years gone by. As long as they are consistent.

I remember Cassidy on Morley getting 6 games - that would be worth a dozen now.

Scruton spear tackled Cunningham a few years ago and only got 3 games and while the intent would be hard to prove the duty of care is still there.

I think 6 - 8 games is a huge punishment and should be reserved for instances such as this which could result in serious injury.

Cheap shots have always been part of the game. No one wants to see it but 3-4 games should be deterrent enough

Ferres' apology, which ends with him saying he may appeal the length of the ban, could be about to break the Internet...

I like the genius of "Something needs to be done to act as a deterrent". If only the RFL had thought of that.

When Monaghan nutted Sinfield in the GF in 2012 should he have been banned for 7 mins?

Now Phil Clarke is at it: www.skysports.com/rugby-league/n ... gby-league I like how he states that this isn't a personal attack on Ferres before going through his disciplinary record in detail and passing judgement... Does he do this for every bad incident or just when it is a foul committed against a Wigan player?

Now Phil Clarke is at it: www.skysports.com/rugby-league/n ... gby-league I like how he states that this isn't a personal attack on Ferres before going through his disciplinary record in detail and passing judgement... Does he do this for every bad incident or just when it is a foul committed against a Wigan player?

considering his comments against danny McGuire, coincidentally wigan were 'victims' again, he is a disgrace. how he kept his job I don't know.
wonder if the roles were reversed if he had been so forthcoming. I very much doubt it

I don't think Clarke's piece is all that bad to be honest. The silence from Leeds is deafening though. McDermott's been pretty outspoken against serious foul play on more than one occasion in the past and I had hoped that he (or GH) would make a similar point when a Leeds player was the culprit. If they're serious of removing it from the game that is, and not just from the opposition's repertoire.

Their failure to speak up means that it's the likes of Clarke and Powers who get to lead the debate.

To be fair that article itself isn't too bad. There's a few strange phrases in it which give away his feelings especially quoting Ferres disciplinary record.

The problem is I don't remember him sounding off so much when non-Wigan players are on the receiving end of such bad tackles. I may be wrong but I don't remember Clarke's outrage when Ferres was on the receiving end of a cannonball tackle from Chase or any other player from other clubs when Wigan were bringing in the cannonball tackle and other house tactics.

McDermott's pre game press conference is tomorrow, I'm sure it'll be discussed then.

In which case fair enough. I hope he speaks frankly, if it stops another tackle like that it'll be worth it.

Classic Clurkey.

In the mould of the old "I'm not racist but" style of poop throwing that's par for the course with this tool.

Always to be found spouting an opposite view, usually without merit or reason his true Goon bias has been showing through more and more and is becoming a running joke.

I whole-heartedly agree with the above posters assessment of the clubs silence on the matter, leaving the door open for grade A, jingoistic drivel from Clurky and Powers in the name of journalism.

Do you think if the club made some statement on the issue that would've stopped Clarke from writing that?

For once, I have no massive issue with what Clarke has said. Taking club bias out of it, I think he's pretty much bang on the money. That doesn't excuse any of his pro-Wigan, anti-anyone else vitriolic outbursts in the past.

Didn't he defend Cassidy in his appeal all those years ago?

Lets hope Mc.D doesn't hold back wrt the Ferres incident just like he did with Singleton.

Nothing wrong at all with Clarke's article. Get the blue and amber tinted specs off. Ferres could have broken Gildart's neck, and had ample time to realise what was happening in the tackle and stop it. He deserves every minute of 6 weeks.

The main thing is the hope that Gildart isn't permanently affected. Everything else, especially the length of Ferres' suspension is secondary IMO. The other big positive could be what Clarke alludes to and we don't see these tackles again.

Suspensions in the NRL led to them virtually being eradicated, which showed two things - firstly that they were only happening as a direct result of coached tactics involving wrestling, which were going wrong on the field, and secondly that even the dumbest players can avoid doing them.

I would like to think Clarke's interjection is to do with his similar career-ending injury when he was at his peak, rather than because it's Wigan. I can't disagree with much he says; Ferres does seem to have an arrogant, selfish attitude that manifests itself on & off the pitch.

On the face of it the article is fine, the question is one that Clarke had caused himself in that would he be writing the same thing if a Wigan player had done that to a Leeds player? This comment from him about the Ben Flower incident trying to turn it into some sort of positive for the sport makes me think not....

And there is the issue-things he's said previously.

However, this article is fine. No issue with it at all.

The point about the crusher tackle in the sport is fine imo but he clearly makes it about Ferres which he claims not to.
Also Printer points out what a hypocrite he is & did PC do a similar article when Bateman only got 3 games for a crusher??

Honestly?

Yes, it would have taken the heat out of the argument.

How? The complaints are largely around the length of the ban and should we see much longer bans to stop these tackles happening. Leeds coming out saying Ferres has let the club down, teammates, himself etc. wouldn't have changed that.

Disagree mate PC is & always will be an attention seeking hypocrite irrespective if a Club Coach or Player speaks out.

Oh I have no doubt that the article would have appeared in some form or guise.

My "beef" as it were is its always sweep it under the carpet one minute, the next, decry it from the rooftops.

Yes McDermott will decry something from the rooftops.....when he's interviewed. As far as I recall he wasn't asked about the incident post match and hasn't been interviewed since (I imagine later today).

GH doesn't come out when it involves player bans for or against with the exception of the Hardaker 2nd homophobic case which is a much different issue.

Who here really would go out of their way to condemn their own player as soon as possible? I very much doubt you'd be running to the press first thing Monday morning to throw Ferres under the bus if you were in the coaching position.