Would also paper over some cracks for a while?

I know a few season ticket holders not going tonight, and are hoping for a big defeat.

Personally, as much as I want the numpty out and changes made, I just can't bring myself to want to see my team beat. The changes should be made anyway, if there was any common sense. That said, if we are going to get beat, I would rather it make a mark than have excuses on a close call. Hope, and think we we will win though.

Win or lose I want to see an organised,cohesive and structured performance.

i agree, but i would rather we had a heavy defeat which will help us in the long run than a scrappy narrow loss or win that papers over the cracks. but here hoping for big response tonight. end of the day we have had 12 great seasons and some of us remember the misery of the 80's i can handle another few trophy less years, its the humiliating hidings i find hard to take.

Anything other than a loss will just prolong the inevitable.

A performance reminiscent of a possible return to 2015 standards? (v Saints, Leigh & Salford)

OR

A shower of sewage? (v Cas)

Supporters can ask for for no more

Mac has ordered plenty of this for tonight i hope.....

Ormondroyd included in the Featherstone this week. Expect that means Walters included in the squad and Lilley drops out.

Available for us then?

Jesus, and the numty wonders why things are not working, and people want him out.

Game time for Baldwinson hopefully.

Would like to see Lilley get a game at scrum half, but I don't expect that to happen.

How is Walters even in the squad, let alone getting picked every week. I don't get that one at all.

Has the 17 been announced?

I wouldn't have all 4 of McGuire, Burrow, Sutcliffe & Lilley in the 17 so one has to drop out of those. So the question shouldn't be about Walters getting in ahead of Lilley, it should be should one of the aforementioned 3 halves make way for Lilley.

It's a sad state of affairs that someone like Walters, who would have struggled to get a place in our A Team 25 years ago gets a spot in our 17 right now.

No, the question should be, as per above how the hell does Walters get picked.

Because other 2nd rowers are missing. HTH

There must be a back rower with at least an inkling of potential that could be given a shot over him? He offers zilch.

To be fair, Cam Smith is just coming back from injury, Jordan Roberts is at Bradford and perhaps the rest are too young?

Walters won't get a look in when we get one second rower back, let alone Ferres, Ward and JJB.

Sutcliffe in there and lilley at 7

Alex Sutcliffe is miles above Walters.

What about Ryan Hall?

Carrying too much timber.

England RU are OK for props as well.

I'd go with that...although it does highlight how quality has slid in recent years

Agreed. Chuffed at his first team deal too, expect to see him at some point this season to be honest.