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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Stand behind the sticks at the allocated away end.'"
okay thanks for the info
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| How many Leeds fans are expected to travel over on the Thursday night. The thurs night is dreadful and the m62 makes it even worse.
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| Finally confirmed that Matty Smith suffered a broken leg last weekend.
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| Any news on kick off times at all? We sticking with 8 or is it moving?
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| Lilley, Oledzki, Jordan-Roberts, Hallas all chosen for the Bradford Bulls squad on loan on Sunday.
Ormondroyd, Baldwinson, Handley, Walters chosen for the Featherstone squad on dual registration on Sunday. Will they be able to back up to Thursday?
Mcguire/Galloway/Ferres/C Smith still injured? If so that leaves us with 18 men.
Golding
Briscoe Watkins Moon Hall
Sutcliffe Burrow
Garbutt Parcell Cuthbertson
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| Quote ="RhinoLaney"Any news on kick off times at all? We sticking with 8 or is it moving?'"
8, they've just extended the coverage.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Lilley, Oledzki, Jordan-Roberts, Hallas all chosen for the Bradford Bulls squad on loan on Sunday.
Ormondroyd, Baldwinson, Handley, Walters chosen for the Featherstone squad on dual registration on Sunday. Will they be able to back up to Thursday?
Mcguire/Galloway/Ferres/C Smith still injured? If so that leaves us with 18 men.
Golding
Briscoe Watkins Moon Hall
Sutcliffe Burrow
Garbutt Parcell Cuthbertson
Ablett Delaney
JJB
Singleton Keinhorst Mullally Ward.'"
I think that says it all with McDermott. Last year I actually could see his position with Baldwinson when everyone was having a go about not selecting him. This year is a new year though, where you start afresh. The general feel in preseason is that Baldwinson has set the bar in the games he has played, and impressed quite a few in the club, which is what you aim for in preseason. Looks like he still has to wait for injuries before a look in.
I know that above is just your View Frosties, and not definitive, but subject to anymore injuries you are probably spot on. That is the problem, everyone can read the coach like a book.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Lilley, Oledzki, Jordan-Roberts, Hallas all chosen for the Bradford Bulls squad on loan on Sunday.
Ormondroyd, Baldwinson, Handley, Walters chosen for the Featherstone squad on dual registration on Sunday. Will they be able to back up to Thursday?
Mcguire/Galloway/Ferres/C Smith still injured? If so that leaves us with 18 men.
Golding
Briscoe Watkins Moon Hall
Sutcliffe Burrow
Garbutt Parcell Cuthbertson
Ablett Delaney
JJB
Singleton Keinhorst Mullally Ward.'"
I think you can presume none of the dual reg players playing on Sunday will back up Thursday, barring us picking up any injuries. Given that, I think Aston will be on the bench instead of Mullally.
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| [list=[/list Quote ="Frosties."Lilley, Oledzki, Jordan-Roberts, Hallas all chosen for the Bradford Bulls squad on loan on Sunday.
Ormondroyd, Baldwinson, Handley, Walters chosen for the Featherstone squad on dual registration on Sunday. Will they be able to back up to Thursday?
Mcguire/Galloway/Ferres/C Smith still injured? If so that leaves us with 18 men.
Golding
Briscoe Watkins Moon Hall
Sutcliffe Burrow
Garbutt Parcell Cuthbertson
Ablett Delaney
JJB
Singleton Keinhorst Mullally Ward.'"
What a great 'A' team the Lioner's could turn out, all staying within the club, under the same coaching regime working to the same game plans, can't for the life of me see that one of the clubs who could easily afford to do this chooses otherwise, could it be that your chairman is as tight as cramp, which actually showed with his "cut price" signings that he chose as replacements for you three talisman retirees last Season!
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| I think both Baldwinson and Ormanroyd did enough to make the 17 maybe at the expense of Delaney and Mullally.
But this time I can see the logic in selecting experience over form for this game.
I'm sure their time will come hopefully It also looks like Parcell is going to play the full 80.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Lilley, Oledzki, Jordan-Roberts, Hallas all chosen for the Bradford Bulls squad on loan on Sunday.
Ormondroyd, Baldwinson, Handley, Walters chosen for the Featherstone squad on dual registration on Sunday. Will they be able to back up to Thursday?
Mcguire/Galloway/Ferres/C Smith still injured? If so that leaves us with 18 men.
Golding
Briscoe Watkins Moon Hall
Sutcliffe Burrow
Garbutt Parcell Cuthbertson
Ablett Delaney
JJB
Singleton Keinhorst Mullally Ward.'"
I reckon McGuire is Ok or Lilley would still be around as he is above Aston in pecking order.
I'm not sure if it is allowed but I'm going to give McD some credit here. I' d suggest he wants as many of the squad playing as possible to bring some of the younger ones on and create competition for places. if Baldwinson and Ormondroyd go well for Fev that will put the other props under pressure to perform and I think he wants to have as many options as possible as the year rolls on and injuries strike.
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| Quote ="Mark Laurie"I reckon McGuire is Ok or Lilley would still be around as he is above Aston in pecking order.
I'm not sure if it is allowed but I'm going to give McD some credit here. I' d suggest he wants as many of the squad playing as possible to bring some of the younger ones on and create competition for places. if Baldwinson and Ormondroyd go well for Fev that will put the other props under pressure to perform and I think he wants to have as many options as possible as the year rolls on and injuries strike.'"
That'd be all well & good mate but look at last years farce Baldwinsons good form for Fev was continually overlooked all season in favour of the p!$$ poor Achurch & biscuit boned Delaney also Cuthbo/Garbutt was injured aswell.
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| Interesting interview with Mac talking about Delaney. Said he was carrying knocks through pre season?
I'm not trying to stir the pot but that doesn't sound great!
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Interesting interview with Mac talking about Delaney. Said he was carrying knocks through pre season?
I'm not trying to stir the pot but that doesn't sound great!'"
He hasn't looked fit in the 2 games i've seen despite not looking like Mr Bump fir the 1st time in years in fact he's looked either at least 2wks behind or shot as a player.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"That'd be all well & good mate but look at last years farce Baldwinsons good form for Fev was continually overlooked all season in favour of the p!$$ poor Achurch & biscuit boned Delaney also Cuthbo/Garbutt was injured aswell.'"
I think Baldwinson has developed from last year. A friend of mine is a flat capper and said he ran very strongly today v fax. I think he will get chances this year in particular against the lesser packs.
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| Quote ="Mark Laurie"I think Baldwinson has developed from last year. A friend of mine is a flat capper and said he ran very strongly today v fax. I think he will get chances this year in particular against the lesser packs.'"
I hope so but he didn't get a sniff despite winning YPOTY in the Championship & the aforementioned weakness' we had last year.
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| Wasn't Baldwinson in the 19 most weeks early season last year and just before he could've gotten in with patience and when more injuries hit he sulked about not getting picked around Magic weekend time and never got in again?
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| And the evidence for him sulking is.....?
Baldwinson seems to have been a bit up himself in the past, but could you hand on heart blame him if he got disenchanted last year when the team was playing like garbage and he wasn't given a proper chance? I don't buy for a second that our front row was never poor - we missed a lot of tackles right up the middle which were down to slow moving (dare I say half-hearted?) forwards.
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| Quote ="Mark Laurie"I think Baldwinson has developed from last year. A friend of mine is a flat capper and said he ran very strongly today v fax. =#40BF00I think he will get chances this year in particular against the lesser packs.'"
Lesser packs being?
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"And the evidence for him sulking is.....?
Baldwinson seems to have been a bit up himself in the past, but could you hand on heart blame him if he got disenchanted last year when the team was playing like garbage and he wasn't given a proper chance? I don't buy for a second that our front row was never poor - we missed a lot of tackles right up the middle which were down to slow moving (dare I say half-hearted?) forwards.'"
Given he was in the 19 most weeks for the first 10 weeks of so and then didn't make the 19 again just after rumours of him sulking about not getting picked I'd say it was true.
I can understand him being disappointed not playing, depends how he showed that to the coach....and before anybody goes on about McDernott do you honestly think Wane, Smith would just role over in the same situation.
We did miss a lot of tackles up the middle.....because we had no hooker defending there, Baldwinson wouldn't have been immune to that problem.
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| you believe every rumour?
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| The point about him sulking is rubbish. I posted last year when I spoke to him at a game in early July regarding rumours of him leaving. I asked him if true, and he said no, and was just concentrating on developing his game and hoping to earn a new deal.
Like I said previously, I could see McDermotts position with props last year, and it was because of that reason for none selection, not a made up sulk. But this is a new year, and he has pushed himself preaseason, where it matters, to have a shirt. The fact it doesn't look that way without injuries, does now say more about the coach than the player.
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| NZ warriors (McD bares a grudge obvs)
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| Printer - I could find a bunch of tries from 2016 where in the lead up its just poor middle defence leading to massive yardage - nothing at all to do with not having a hooker or being tired. Some of the highlights from last year were genuinely embarrassing from all concerned in defence.
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| No idea whether Baldwinson sulked or not but it's easy to believe McDermott would go for experience given the choice. It'll be interesting to see what he's taken from last year in this regard.
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