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| Any more speculation on where BJB is going and if a player exchange with Wakefield is going to take place?
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs"Swap Bailey for anyone please! Get that excuse for a prop out of the club. At least Kirke and Moore have been available to pick and Singleton is far more feared by the rest of SL.
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Wakefield have no players I would swap for 6 time Grand Final winner Ryan Bailey.
Bailey in.
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs"I'll donate a one way ticket to Hunslet to Baileys. Get him our Gary!'"
Not a great effort on grammar, spelling or context.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Not a great effort on grammar, spelling or context.'"
It's all relative. It was propbably a monumental effort from the poster to produce those two sentences. Nice to see people punch above their weight.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Wakefield have no players I would swap for 6 time Grand Final winner Ryan Bailey.
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Are you sure ?
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| If we could get any of Wakeys better players (Poore,Aiton or Kirmond) whilst offloading any of Moore,Kirke and McShane (who clearly doesnt fit in) thats got to be seen as good business.
Releasing BJB though would not be.yes we have got a great back line now with Briscoe added to it but injuries do and will happen and to have BJB waiting in the wings would be ideal.We dont want a situation where a long term injury in the backs leaves us with an exposed flank ala Vickery this year.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"We dont want a situation where a long term injury in the backs leaves us with an exposed flank ala Vickery this year.'"
I know and leave players like Chisolm twiddling their thumbs.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"I know and leave players like Chisolm twiddling their thumbs.
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Is Chisolm any good? Genuine question as Not heard any rave reports coming out of Hunslet.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Is Chisolm any good? Genuine question as Not heard any rave reports coming out of Hunslet.'"
Doesn't really matter now he's at Fev.
FWIW quick and elusive, but not a great tackler/catcher.
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| Looks like Bish isn't heading to the Wire
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| Looks like a young Gary Connelly ?spelling
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| Versatile, and by the looks of it one of the better players in a Titans side that has taken some hammerings in the Holden Cup this year. Interesting to see where he fits in at Warrington or if he's just gone as cover.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Versatile, and by the looks of it one of the better players in a Titans side that has taken some hammerings in the Holden Cup this year. Interesting to see where he fits in at Warrington or if he's just gone as cover.'"
I suspect he's heap and cover, only a two year deal initially, if he was to be their first choice FB deal would b longer.
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| Rugby League Banter Page mentioned Hardaker to the pies last night, hope that isn't true!
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Is Chisolm any good? Genuine question as Not heard any rave reports coming out of Hunslet.'"
I haven't seen much of him, but he can't be worse than Vickery.
If Chisolm had have replicated Vickerys contribution but least he's have been our home grown failing who'd we'd offered a chance to.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"I haven't seen much of him, but he can't be worse than Vickery.
If Chisolm had have replicated Vickerys contribution but least he's have been our home grown failing who'd we'd offered a chance to.'"
Vickery may have had little impact on games, and been weak, but if Chishlm can't tackle and can't catch as reported by many on here, I fail to see how he'd have been a better option
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"I haven't seen much of him, but he can't be worse than Vickery.
If Chisolm had have replicated Vickerys contribution but least he's have been our home grown failing who'd we'd offered a chance to.'"
I couldn't agree more, Infact i said as much at the time.
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| Quote ="ls28_rhino"Rugby League Banter Page mentioned Hardaker to the pies last night, hope that isn't true!'"
Given salary cap and their recent signing of Bowen and presence of Ryan Hampshire, I really can't see it. Leeds would have no reason to let him go. How often do we see big stars (I think Hardaker counts as that at SL level now) moving between the big teams while under contract these days?
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Given salary cap and their recent signing of Bowen and presence of Ryan Hampshire, I really can't see it. Leeds would have no reason to let him go. How often do we see big stars (I think Hardaker counts as that at SL level now) moving between the big teams while under contract these days?
Not going to happen.'"
I don't think he'll got, but I don't think your arguments stack up. Salary cap they have tons of space surely after 3 big players leaving. Cash transfer? they have just had a world record fee for a top player. HArdaker would make a decent replacement. THey have signed 1 replacement for 1 winger and 1 fullback so they could fit him in their squad.
Would Leeds let him go? Doubt it, they could be after BJB instead though
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| I don't want to see BJB leave but I don't think I'd be as disappointed as if Hardaker left, I think Hardaker at back with Briscoe and Hall on the wings would be quite a threat to all teams... Just need some investment in forwards!
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| Quote ="The Eagle"I don't think he'll got, but I don't think your arguments stack up. Salary cap they have tons of space surely after 3 big players leaving. Cash transfer? they have just had a world record fee for a top player. HArdaker would make a decent replacement. THey have signed 1 replacement for 1 winger and 1 fullback so they could fit him in their squad.
Would Leeds let him go? Doubt it, they could be after BJB instead though'"
I think my arguments stack up perfectly. They were just poorly explained.
They probably do have cap space, but it would be unusual for any club to spuff a huge wedge of their salary cap on two players to fill one position. Especially when they have academy cover, and given that you wouldn't sign either Bowen or Hardaker to play on the wing, and both will be too expensive to be squad cover. Bowen is Tomkins' replacement. Because Leeds don't have any requirement to trim their wage bill even if income falls a bit and the constraints of the cap and other players being under contract meanaing that any fee would be very hard to spend on a like-for-like replacement, it would take a BIG wedge, I suspect, to prise him from Headingley.
Richards may (or may not, depending how they're feeling about their academy products) need replacing. So if they were going to part with a wedge for either player, BJB would be a more likely option. If they really wanted to spend big cash on a winger then they woul probably have used the Tomkins income to out-bid Hudds for Jodie Broughton.
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| Quote ="ls28_rhino"I don't want to see BJB leave but I don't think I'd be as disappointed as if Hardaker left, I think Hardaker at back with Briscoe and Hall on the wings would be quite a threat to all teams... Just need some investment in forwards!'"
I'd be really disappointed if Hardaker left. He'll be the best attacking full back in the league next year, in my not-so-very-humble opinion. That back 3, on paper, is the best we've had in the 24 or 25 years (arithmetic ain't my bag) I've been watching Leeds. Looking around the league, only Charnley and Monaghan leap to mind as competitors for those two as wingers, with maybe Broughton and Lineham having the potential to be if they have opportunities in teams that create enough chances.
Alongside a centre pairing that could go on to be right up there with the best we've had (and I'm going to go for the Innes and Iro partnership there), our backline is genuinely exciting. We really, really have to make sure we use it a bit better next year.
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| Quote ="The Eagle"I don't think he'll got, but I don't think your arguments stack up. Salary cap they have tons of space surely after 3 big players leaving. Cash transfer? they have just had a world record fee for a top player. HArdaker would make a decent replacement. THey have signed 1 replacement for 1 winger and 1 fullback so they could fit him in their squad.
Would Leeds let him go? Doubt it, they could be after BJB instead though'"
Is Bowen on a 1 year or 2year deal, Hardacker could make sense to Wigan, having cover FB with Hardacker taking the FB role as his own after or before Bowen departs the club. I heard that Leeds were open to interest on Hardacker, thoughts of NRL but nothing seems to be going on there so maybe some speculation with some possible interest from Wigan.....as you suggest salary cap wise I think they could offer Haracker a better contract than Leeds could or are doing......??? BJB then fits in for Leeds at FB
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| Quote ="Maximillion"Is Bowen on a 1 year or 2year deal, Hardacker could make sense to Wigan, having cover FB Centre with Hardacker taking the FB role as his own after or before Bowen departs the club. I heard that Leeds were open to interest on Hardacker, thoughts of NRL but nothing seems to be going on there so maybe some speculation with some possible interest from Wigan.....as you suggest salary cap wise I think they could offer Haracker a better contract than Leeds could or are doing......??? BJB then fits in for Leeds at FB'"
Time will tell, but this all seems very unlikely on the face of it. I could see him going to the NRL, but not to go and play second fiddle at Wigan.
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