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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Not arrogant, just proud.
And rightly so as you should know.
I was at Leeds in 1957.
RL didn't begin in 1996.'"
Even worse is this post, you have contradicted something you said earlier(we have earned the right to be arogant) make your mind up which one it is.
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| Anyone who watches SL can see Wigan are the best side at the moment - league tables don't lie. Fortunately for Leeds the semi is several weeks away. Based on current form you would be happy to draw Leeds. Some on here need to apply some common sense not views based on a series of games from October 2011.
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| Why can't Leeds fans handle the truth?
You are the weakest of the 4 teams, fact.
So what if you're world champs? At the moment you have the weakest side and are below the other 3 teams in the league.
And 9 weeks is a long time in RL. It's erm... 9 weeks.
Yes, we are arrogant. But as many people say: Arrogance is inherited through success.
Have a nice evening.
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"Yes, we are arrogant. But as many people say: Arrogance is inherited through success. '" I'm struggling with this concept; I feel instinctively there should be some sort of amortisation period on an intangible like success-bred arrogance. Or does it have the half-life of a faded bit of Norweb-branded polyester?
To be fair the "first and best" arrogance of Manningham fans also does my head in.
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| You ever been to Wigan, they don't just live in the past in their minds.
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"Why can't Leeds fans handle the truth?
You are the weakest of the 4 teams, fact.
So what if you're world champs? At the moment you have the weakest side and are below the other 3 teams in the league.
And 9 weeks is a long time in RL. It's erm... 9 weeks.
Yes, we are arrogant. But as many people say: Arrogance is inherited through success.
Have a nice evening.'"
I agree with the first part
Arrogance is a horrible Attribute whatever the circumstance but if anyone feels the need to display it wouldn't it be the current most successful team?
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| 9 weeks is a long time
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| Surely the only people entitled to be arrogant are the players. The fans have contributed nothing except their entrance money.
As Huddersfield are proving you don't need countless thousands of supporters to be a success.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Surely the only people entitled to be arrogant are the players. The fans have contributed nothing except their entrance money.
As Huddersfield are proving you don't need countless thousands of supporters to be a success.'"
So you don't think atmosphere plays a small part? Have you heard of Epinephrine?
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"Why can't Leeds fans handle the truth?
You are the weakest of the 4 teams, fact.
So what if you're world champs? At the moment you have the weakest side and are below the other 3 teams in the league.
And 9 weeks is a long time in RL. It's erm... 9 weeks.
Yes, we are arrogant. But as many people say: Arrogance is inherited through success.
Have a nice evening.'"
Being below other teams doesn't necessarily mean they are stronger.
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| Quote ="Loyal Leeds Fan"So you don't think atmosphere plays a small part? Have you heard of Epinephrine?'"
No who does he play for. Yes I do think atmosphere plays a part but as you say its just a small part, and it still doesn't give fans the right to be arrogant.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"So the same team that demolished Leeds were unable to score against Wigan for 70 minutes - and some it was hardly world shattering!!
Some on here need to take a reality check - it will be a huge achievement for Leeds to beat Wigan not the forgone conclusion the likes of Gareth make it out to be.
All those who say Leeds are a big game team!! - Leeds have been in 16 of the last 20 CC semis and won it once!!'"
That was then this is now, there were many reasons why they battered us and we will find out next monday if they were actually mitigating reasons sal, why should fear wigan, I for one do not believe it is a forgone conclusion, but we have the players as has been proven in the not too distant past that can rise to the occasion when it matters the most, you are entitled to your opinion as is everyone else, and right now that is all it is.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Surely the only people entitled to be arrogant are the players. The fans have contributed nothing except their entrance money.
As Huddersfield are proving you don't need countless thousands of supporters to be a success.'"
Not being funny mate but were you actually alive when Huddersfield last tasted success. I suppose success is relative to what you aspire to as a club, Huddersfield is a small town with a poorly supported team so success for them is making the top four before Warrington put 60 past em in the playoffs and we finish their season before going on to be champions. It's more than coincidence that "bigger" clubs achieve more and those "bigger" clubs attract more supporters. The Leeds fans played a major part in the teams success last year averaging over 15,000 despite a second poor regular season and travelling in good numbers when the team needed backing. Huddersfields support is a joke and it ultimately costs them in more than financial terms.
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"Why can't Leeds fans handle the truth?
You are the weakest of the 4 teams, fact.
So what if you're world champs? At the moment you have the weakest side and are below the other 3 teams in the league.
And 9 weeks is a long time in RL. It's erm... 9 weeks.
Yes, we are arrogant. But as many people say: Arrogance is inherited through success.
Have a nice evening.'"
Exactley what is your recent success x 1 super league and x 1 challenge cup wow !!!!, lets all bow down to the arrogant pies, I think not
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Surely the only people entitled to be arrogant are the players. The fans have contributed nothing except their entrance money.
As Huddersfield are proving you don't need countless thousands of supporters to be a success.'"
Only untill your sugar daddy closes the piggy bank then its a problem !!
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"After watching the brilliance of Leeds in the 2nd half on Friday night (the way you lot kept the ball 'alive' in the tackle, was incredible) and the 'respect' your fans/players showed to us Leigh Centurions before/after the game, can't wait for this one.
I know it will be tough, but if you can beat the Pies, a Leeds v Warrington final would be superb.
Shaun Wane is one arrogant coach, Bri McDermott/James Lowes really 'down to earth/modest'.
I will be shouting for the Rhino's, and also if you make it to the final !!!'"
Budgie whos side are you on,Leigh is part of Wigan Metro so keep that in mind ( bit tounge in cheek that)
I am a Wigan supporter ,I was at Leigh on Friday and at Wigan yesterday I love the Wigan club but I respect the rest of R/L (NOT ALLWAYS S/L)
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| Quote ="rhinogonemad"Only untill your sugar daddy closes the piggy bank then its a problem !!'"
I think you've mistaken me for a Huddersfield fan. They are nothing to me, I was merely pointing out that the success on the field is achieved by the players and not the fans (although they do play a small part).
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"I think you've mistaken me for a Huddersfield fan. They are nothing to me, I was merely pointing out that the success on the field is achieved by the players and not the fans (although they do play a small part).'"
Sorry I do appreciate where your are from, Im just pointing out that with no fans and only a sugar daddy keeping the team afloat by injecting money, fans are required for the continued success, if Ken Davy said tomorrow that the well is dry, the guiants would be in the same boat as the bulls**t, no money and large wages with no income from the fans.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"
Some on here need to take a reality check - it will be a huge achievement for Leeds to beat Wigan not the forgone conclusion the likes of Gareth make it out to be.
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Can you read? If so, go back and read what I typed about our chances in this game because you either haven't read it, haven't understood it or are just making stuff up.
Quote All those who say Leeds are a big game team!! - Leeds have been in 16 of the last 20 CC semis and won it once!!'" This is a semi final, not a final. How many of those semi finals have Leeds won?
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| Quote ="G1"This is a semi final, not a final. How many of those semi finals have Leeds won?'"
Prior to this year Leeds have won eight of the fifteen played over the last twenty seasons.
As already remarked upon Leeds' biggest hurdle (Wigan and the referee aside) is in breaking the sequence of results experienced at this stage over that time period:
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| Quote ="stillinthepast"Budgie whos side are you on,Leigh is part of Wigan Metro so keep that in mind ( bit tounge in cheek that)
I am a Wigan supporter ,I was at Leigh on Friday and at Wigan yesterday I love the Wigan club but I respect the rest of R/L (NOT ALLWAYS S/L)'"
and Wigan is part of Greater Manchester!dont talk stupid,we are discussing RL and why should some of wigans spectators display this kind of arrogance and disrespect when they really have no SL legacy?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Semi final against Huddersfield at Odsal?'"
would you pick this Leeds team and call them weak?
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| Really you can only compare teams since the start of the salary cap i.e. level playing field.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Really you can only compare teams since the start of the salary cap i.e. level playing field.'"
Correct and there are 3 clubs with a SL legacy Saints ,Bulls, and Leeds.Wigan look a decent team,but they do not look anyway near those 3 teams that achieved so much.Maybe in 6 or 7 years they will,but I would have thought after last year their "speccies "would have learned from the mantra'not as good as you think you are'or at least no where near as good as those 3 SL Dynasty's
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| So Wigan it is.... Hopefully played on a day/time convenient to the nearest soccer club at a ground with no RL heritage.
My other wish is that the RFL provide a ref who will at least attempt to encourage free flowing RL
Then we have a chance of winning
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