Not really, no.

I certainly don't think he was ever dominant in the international arena in that era in the way the the likes of Farrell, Sculthorpe and Morley were.

He's probably Super League's greatest domestic player along with Senior but internationally, nah.

For the sake of the argument, let's say you and him were working on a 'project' would you ask for some (or all) of your slice before or after the job?

Just a thought.

a song by wigan fans leaving central park in the far too long ago

'henderson gill goes round the outside , round the outside & hanley goes through the window'

this was when wigan pretended to be part time and 2nd incomes were needed

No way can Bailey be described as great. He has a very limited game with little creative ability. His go forward is very poor, he is slow and easily tackled. His best ability was to regain his feet quickly and win us a few free kicks but even that has gone these days. Most of his tackles now are second tackles and his discipline is suspect and he starts trouble. As each year has passed he has not improved and in fact has got worse. I would like to see his stats as an average for the last few seasons because I am sure they will show him for what he really is.

He can. Watch.

Bailey is great.

See.

I've watched him play rugby to form my opnion. Still, have at it.

Don't forget his throw in's as well.

Saying it doesn't make it true though.

To form my opinion I have also watched him play, and I can see his rugby limitations.

No, what makes it true is his selection, week after week , after week, in of the the current era's most dominant team. What makes it true is that coach after coach at his club have selected him week after week. What makes it true is the domestic honours he's achieved. What makes it true is the international recognition he receives.

I don't need to wait for any stats to know the above.

What a ridiculous argument, Bailey is an average prop who adds to his limited ability by being the greatest wind up merchant since Graham Bradley (sp) at the Bulls.

He almost sucks the ability out of far better players!!

Yet he gets continually picked for the Leeds first team?


Head scratcher isn’t it?

Bailey's good, but nothing special.

His serves his purpose and role within the team well. He doesn't deserve the criticism levelled at him from opposition fans.

But at the same time some of our fans go over the top, like calling him the most feared man in super league

Was I silly for bracketing Cunningham with the man who has played more games than anyone else in Super League, Scored more tries than anyone else in Super League, played in every single season of Super League, achieved every trophy there is to achieve in Super league?

On reflection, you're right. Cunningham is a distant second behind Senior.

It doesn't count because he didn't play for the "mighty S"

With today's news coming out of Knowsley Road it's this season or never now for Mick Potter's St Helens. No wonder he was laughing after Sunday's game.

My bad.

The people have spoken.

A consensus has been formulated.

Krusty, Senior isn't even in Harris' class.

As your old boyfreind used to say.

Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Still projecting homosexuality onto others for a laff, Krusty? Wot next - peashooters?



I give Senior his due for making the most of his talents. Indeed, if THAT were the absolute yardstick of greatness he might well be close to the top of the pile. But it isn't.

Like Senior, Harris endured as a top flight player. But he was also more talented and influential. The fact that he was instrumental in the Bulls AND Rhinos' SL championships puts him above Senior alone.

Yet at 34 Keith Senior is still coming up with game winning contributions in Super League, such as the one we saw on Saturday. Harris, on the other hand, at the same age (in fact slightly younger), and having spent spent a year at the mighty Featherstone after a less than average season at the Bulls, is now coaching at Crusaders.

Just out of interest, which Leeds SL championship win was he instrumental in?

I know he wasn't great in the 2004 final but I'd argue Robbie Paul played a much more influential role



Harris had some about 3 great seasons at Leeds but he certainly wasn't consistently one of the best players in his position for anywhere near as long as Senior has been.

Of course none of that will matter in your petty point scoring competition.

Oh and for the record Graham > Bailey > the rest of the Saints props

Harris history revision by bitter Leeds fans?

You can set your watch by it.

Where's the history revision?
He wasn't involved in any Championship winning team and was great for 3yrs at Leeds 98,99,and 2000.
Which british centre has been better than Senior during the SL era?

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I was just shown to be a complete fool with my inaccurate ramblings therefore I'll make another point scoring jibe to cover up my idiocy