17-Sep-99 ..... PO - QPO ..... Knowsley Road ..... St Helens 38 Leeds 14 ..... 9,585
24-Sep-99 ..... PO - ESF ..... Headingley ..... Leeds 16 Castleford 23 ..... 16,912

Where did the fault lie that season? The CEO, the Coach, the Players or maybe even the fans?

Or were St Helens and Castleford (neither big opponents according to Murray) just too good?

That was a pretty decent sequence of results at the time:

:29xqevzi11-Jun-99 ..... Central Park ..... Wigan ..... 9,588 ..... Won 13 - 4

Jamie Mathiou's first Leeds try am I right? Infact didn't he only score one after that as well?

Was that try scored following a dummy that almost defined the word 'outrageous'?

Haha yes! He did that everytime he had the ball. That was the only time it actually worked.

His first try was in that '99 game at Wigan. He also scored three more during his five seasons at Headingley though.

3rd March 2000 V Wakefield (SL)
10th March 2000 V Dewsbury (CC)
3rd March 2001 V London (SL)

Jamie Mathiou's Leeds career: Played 36+100, 4 Tries, 16 Points

He's the only player to have made 100 sub appearances for Leeds during the SL Era.

The rest of the Top 5 are:

2 - Willie Poching 89
3 - Ali Lauitiiti 83
4 - Barrie McDermott 78
5 - Rob Burrow 72

Eh?

The 1999 team won the Challenge Cup. This teams failure to do so this year had you in a bit of a tizzy and asking questions about the squad, coach and Chief Exec.

Not me.

I don't necessarily see the need to find "fault" for defeats when results on the sporting arena are decided by factors other those which are discussed on here. defeats will happen. defeats would happen even if the club did all the things you would like them to do.

Would they be the same questions I've been asking of the CEO, coach and the squad assembled before that CC defeat?

As for the 'not me' remark, I've not exactly been alone in questioning the coach's methods on here either although I've done that less than some as I think he is limited somewhat by the squad he has at his disposal this season compared to last when it comes to the 'big' matches.

Probably, but the result fuelled the belief that you were right.

Would that be the coach same questioning of methods I have consistently done throughout last season when some where hailing him as our greatest ever coach?

Yes, that would be the same coach whose methods successfully got his team to peak in February for the WCC and October for the GF becoming the first coach to do so during the SL Era. Although he arguably did so with a better squad at his disposal.

Would that be the same WCC he competed in thanks to his predecessor, a predecessor who managed to coach his team to a CC Final?

Oh, and that achievement in 2008 was achieved with no additions to the 2007 squad unlike the luxury he has been afforded this year.

almost as good as a Andy Hay dummy

that defeat at saints on the tuesday after the cc win was a farce, as was the same when we battered them a few days after they had played in the final.
leeds were on the beer and never met up till tuesday afternoon for that game. murray was quoted at the time as saying he picked the 17 'fittest' players regardless of position.
i think he meant most sober

still, they are both better than anything you've managed to produce on a rugby field!

Tony Smith's Leeds got to one CC Final in four years didn't they? So McClennan's Leeds could yet emulate that feat or possibly even beat it.



Did Eric Anselme tell you to say that.

Oh and how many of the 2007 squad left at the end of that season requiring replacements to be found?

Thackray off the top of my head. I am sure you can tell me of the others.

god like Shane Millard?

Who are we laughing at here. The person who said there were no additions to the 2008 squad or the person who remembered one?



Thackray was still on Leeds' books at the start of the SL Regular Rounds in 2008 and was given squad number 15.

No I can't tell you who the others were. Perhaps there's a reason for that?



Shane Millard left at the end of 2006.

Loz din't know that, he was too busy watching Bramley back then!

anyone else notice when uncle gawwy was conducting the auction of Morley's shirt him saying "suprised he hasn't bid for this himself as he's wanted another Leeds shirt"??

living in the past

Bore off.

Right I'm gonna have to tred carefully here.

I didn't go the dinner for the '99 lot. But at the game last night I heard a few people (who went to the 'do') talk about Jamie Mathious health? Could anyone shed any light on this? In an appropriate manner.

He's a fat b*stard having put some weight on but I heard nowt else.

At first I though it might be the fast food but then I though he would probably attempt to slap the poor sods who tried to serve him so it cant be that.

Maybe its glandular.