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| Well done Kevin. It is entirely appropriate that he should be the one to overtake the record set by one of our greatest legends. I hope Lewis is able to present some memento to Kevin at a future home game. I have been privileged to witness many of the points scored by both players who apart from their class on the field are/were unassuming role models off the field.
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| Quote ="Wheels"There will probably be a full interview or something over the next day or two. Stop being so precious.'"
No, quite frankly.
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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"No, quite frankly.'"
Happy now?
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| The BBC website says he is one in front of Lewis Jones, but I thought it was three?
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| Isn't it now 5?
I feel privileged to have watched Kevin since he was (briefly) in the academy.
Having seen his 1st ever appearance in the 1st team I was chuffed to be there last night when he broke the record.
Thanks to him for everything, especially the game winning goals in tight games.
He proves that good guys can come top.
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| If the Rhinos handbook is right, last night was also a record win for Leeds away at Salford.
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| Lewis Jones was my boyhood idol ,and the words from Juan summed up my thoughts.Whatever way you look at the two achievements,like as mac said yesterday Kevin didn't over kicking duties till 2003,both are proud records for both legends and the club
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| Quote ="FoxyRhino"If the Rhinos handbook is right, last night was also a record win for Leeds away at Salford.'"
The 16- =#0000BF56 is a Leeds record score away at Salford.
The Leeds record winning margin at Salford was set in 2004 with a 0- =#0000BF44 win.
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| TVOC, the YEP mentions that we last lost away at Salford in 1993 in a Regal Trophy match. I would have been there, but can't for the life of me remember it. Can you provide match details please?
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| Have many players have scored a try on each of their first three appearances?
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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"TVOC, the YEP mentions that we last lost away at Salford in 1993 in a Regal Trophy match. I would have been there, but can't for the life of me remember it. Can you provide match details please?'"
Sat 13th November 1993, 2nd Round Regal Trophy, Salford 21 - 12 Leeds, HT 10-6, Referee: Robin Whitfield (Widnes), Attendance 1,799.
Salford:
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Critchley, Birkett, Williams, Ford
Reid, Bown
Young, Lee, O'Connor
Forber, Tauro, Burgess
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Tries: Lee 2 (including a penalty try) Critchley, Forber. Goals: Birkett (2) Drop Goal: Brown
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Fallon, Iro, Irving, Scales
Lowes, Stephens
Harmon, Maskill, Scott
Eyres, Mercer, Vassilakopoulos
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Tries: Iro, Tait. Goals: Irving (2)
Awful day with a game to match from a Leeds point of view against a Salford side on a five game losing streak.
The game was only notable for a few things: Richard Webster's debut for Salford after changing codes, Marcus Vassilakopoulos' full debut for Leeds, Doug Laughton missing the game with the flu meaning the after-match media duties were handed to Paul Fletcher - no point asking Laughton's assistant to step up to the mike as he was still in his marcel marceau phase - and last but not least Gary Rose turning out in the afternoon after leaving his bride of a couple of hours at the wedding reception with 200 guests.
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Quote ="Hopie"Have many players have scored a try on each of their first three appearances?'"
I don't know if many have down the years but the last one I recall doing so before Liam Hood was Garry Schofield after he joined during the 1987/88 season. Before him there was Andy Mason (1986/87) and Andrew Smith (1981/82)
Those are the only four I can find over the period 1979/80 to date although I've only scanned the records so can't say there arn't any more where they came from.
(I thought Ali Lauitiiti may have during the SL Era but he didn't score on his debut V Salford although he went on to score tries in his next four.)
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| Thanks TVOC. I vaguely remember it now. Not so much for the game, but for the Gary Rose stuff. I had forgotten about the nightmare wing of Irving and Scales.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Sat 13th November 1993, 2nd Round Regal Trophy, Salford 21 - 12 Leeds, HT 10-6, Referee: Robin Whitfield (Widnes), Attendance 1,799.'" Was this one on BBC and during a period of fairly dismal weather? I recall that the Otley transmitter was down (due to snow) for a televised Salford game around that time so my plans to stay at home and watch our progression were stymied
Laughton Out
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| It was chosen by the BBC as the Saturday fixture and the two week notice wasn't sufficient for Gary Rose and his intended (Julie Wall) to re-arrange their wedding.
After the match Webster was asked 'would you have liked to get on before the 65th minute', his answer ..... NO.
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Just read an opinion piece by Laughton while researching the Salford game where he's setting out the case for what we would now know as the 40/20 kick.
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| With regard to Laughton, here's one to test you TVOC. Which game was his infamous 'Bogey-gate' performance? In my head, I've got it as taking place at the Boulevard.
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| I can't recall a specific game but I thought the nose-picking was Laughton's mechanism to deter the cameras being trained on him for reactions. In my mind it happened more than just once.
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| After Sinfield's exploits, I had a look at other club records and there aren't many major individual records that are likely to be passed soon if ever. John Holmes' appearance record is probably unreachable with fewer games played per year, and it will be more than a decade after Sinfield retires before the total points record could be threatened.
The tryscoring records would seem tough as well - beating Eric Harris' season best (63) would probably be harder than his career total (391), although that would take some doing as well.
Maybe the most feasible ones would tries per game (8 by several players) and points per game (actually that's a toughie as well, 42 by Harris), in a cup game against a minnow team?
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| Does anyone know if there's a list anywhere of the top 10 all-time points scorers for any team. A quick look suggests Wigan's record point scorer (Jim Sullivan) scored close to 4,900 points for Wigan but is there a comprehensive list anywhere for other teams?
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| Quote ="FoxyRhino"Does anyone know if there's a list anywhere of the top 10 all-time points scorers for any team. A quick look suggests Wigan's record point scorer (Jim Sullivan) scored close to 4,900 points for Wigan but is there a comprehensive list anywhere for other teams?'"
Neil Fox must have got a few,but Kev could tot up a few more before he finishes
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| Slightly OT but still slightly topical... Honourable mention to Leo Messi of Barcelona. He is their record goalscorer at the grand old age of 24. Some effort that.
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| Quote ="Wheels"Slightly OT but still slightly topical... Honourable mention to Leo Messi of Barcelona. He is their record goalscorer at the grand old age of 24. Some effort that.'"
And a mere 54 goals and 8 hatricks so far this season...it's only March - what a freak!
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| Quote ="Omar Little"And a mere 54 goals and 8 hatricks so far this season...it's only March - what a freak!'"
He does score a crazy amount, but to use Sir Kevs humble approach here. Look at the players around him. Plus the Spanish League is a posh SPL, 2 teams that dominate and the rest range from average to crap
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| Neil Fox 6220.
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| Sir Kev will probably finish his leeds career around 4000 points in my opinion, hopefully more. Dont know where that puts him in regards to an all time top 10 but its a top achievement. Another 200 this season and 300 for the following 3 season.
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| Quote ="jarvis12345"Sir Kev will probably finish his leeds career around 4000 points in my opinion, hopefully more. Dont know where that puts him in regards to an all time top 10 but its a top achievement. Another 200 this season and 300 for the following 3 season.'"
This the list of all-time leading scorers (including both club & representative games) as it stands right now:
1 Neil Fox (Wakefield/Bradford/Hull KR/York/Bramley/Huddersfield, 1956-79) 6,220
2 Jim Sullivan (Wigan, 1921-46) 6,022
3 Gus Risman (Salford/Workington/Batley, 1929-54) 4,050
4 John Woods (Leigh/Warrington/Bradford/Rochdale, 1976-92) 3,985
5 Cyril Kellett (Hull KR/Featherstone, 1956-74) 3,686
6 Kel Coslett (St Helens/Rochdale, 1962-79) 3,545
7 Mick Nanyn (Swinton/Rochdale/Whitehaven/Widnes/Oldham/Leigh, 1999-2011) 3,514
8 Lewis Jones (Leeds, 1952-64) 3,445
9 Steve Quinn (York/Featherstone, 1970-8icon_cool.gif 3,438
10 Andy Farrell (Wigan, 1991-2004) 3,385
11 Jim Ledgard (Leeds/Dewsbury/Leigh, 1944-61) 3,279
12 David Watkins (Salford/Swinton/Cardiff, 1967-82) 3,117
13 Kevin Sinfield (Leeds, 1997-present) 3,081
Think it's a realistic aim for Sir Kev to break into the top three or four (probably dependent on how long both he and Mick Nanyn play for - although with Nanyn a long term injury absentee for Halifax, and possibly gone for the season, he has a chance to make some ground up).
3rd is the best he could do I suspect though Neil Fox and Jim Sullivan are WAY out of reach!
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