I think it always seems different when front rowers are the best players rather than flashy halves or outside backs who may score or set up tries for fun. I think it's more obvious to stand out when you do that rather than just pile forward and tackle like your life depends on it in the front row.

Hill and Peacock have been great. I watch Hill most weeks and I have to say I think he's amazing, I will be bias with that opinion as he's one of my team's players. But he stands up at the level with any forward in the NRL for me. Peacock too, though. He's as good now as he was five years ago and more. He's not as fast, but that's a given, but still stands ahead of far younger props at any other clubs.

I think Clark has a shout but I think he's nailed on for Young Player.. He's been great. But so has Millington, Shenton and a few others at Cas...and a mention to Kevein Brown who has been very good this season.

Hill or Peacock though and either way you'd say they would deserve it.

Peacock by a country mile

Ha Ha this made me chickle, not one player has come close to him this season? some very one eyed bias on here

I don't think he's a Leeds fan.

Clark - He hasn't done enough these last couple of weeks in my opinion. He has been getting shut down in the big games, he needs a big game at the weekend vs Saints to get back contention.

Hill - JP made him his b!tch in the CC semi final, good player but still not the JP standard, like Clark, he needs some big games in the early playoff rounds to be front runner.

JP - Keeps going and keeps been the dominant forward week in week out. Even when Leeds' pack gets battered JP still stands out as one of the toughest on the pitch. Consistent.

JP is an absolute legend for us, and is the one true stand out of our pack.
I don't think he is anything close to last year, but still believe he epitomises everything a MOS is. Can't understand the doubts on Hill, because if anything over the whole season, he has probably been better than Peacock. What a future that lad has.

However, for me Peacock should be the one his fellow players edge for, as they will understand more than us, just what he gives this Leeds team, and amazed at how he keeps doing it, and his age.

As if I needed more proof,now I know your deluded.When the press had the vote he never got anywhere near, in fact they were falling over to give it to super sub Roby rather than Gareth Ellis in past years.
Again it should be Peacock but I can see super sub Clark piping him.

LOL

Could be he comes from other side of the hill

Regards , EW

Peacock for me as well

Regards twice , EW

Hope J.P gets it but i certainly would put Hill up there with him

kevin brown for me

Daryl Clark.

JP with the runnner up James Roby ,without doubt the best hooker in the game.

Some strange folk on here, Peacock would be the standout for me, whether he gets it or not remains to be seen given the players don't like voting for certain teams.

Can't see there even been a debate next year. Won't be a Leeds player. Only one player going to win it for me already.

JP has been immense this year… again and there’d be no complaints from me if he was to bag MoS but for my money this year it has to be Daryl Clark. IMO I believe he has epitomised what the MoS award is about.

JP
Hill
Smith
Young player of the year
Clark
Coach of the year
Powell

JP hasn't had the impact this year that he has had in previous years - Leeds' continued slide down the table probably reflects that too.

Playing devil's advocate - if you are going to award it for the qualities Peacock has then why not Paul Wellens - the attributes Peacock is celebrated for apply equally to Wellens and given Saints' position in the table it could argued that Wellens' contribution is greater?

The difference is that Wellens out of the Saints side, does it have a massive effect? Peacock out of the Leeds side, has a massive effect.

I think that is more the issue here, Peacocks qualities come more to the fore because he is such a stand out in our team, and so important for it. Probably put him in the Wire team or something, and playing alongside Hill, I don't believe people would be so lauding to the same degree.

My point is does Peacock's contribution look more because of the quality around him or because of his own quality. Are his performances have more quality than Wellens? Both are consummate professionals and both add massively to their team. Peacock should not be lauded because he lacks support from his team mates whereas Wellens doesn't.

This year has seen a definite drop off in his effectiveness - not surprising given his age etc. So is he getting the award out of respect for his past performances if so that is OK but it is not really what the award is about?

This is a good question and I guess a deeper one around the whole award - do you give the MoS to specifically the best player only, or do you give it to the player that has the greatest impact on those around him, even though his specific performances have been better in past years?

As a purist, I would say 'best overall player' - I guess most of the time this tends to be a player in the best / one of the best teams as the two tend to dove-tail. This being the case though, you can argue the other way and say the 'best overall player' shouldn't get the award as usually the rest of the team have played well too and helped him perform as such.

In football they tend solely to go for 'player with the biggest individual impact on the league' rather than the 'player who did really well and dragged his team-mates along as they were hopeless without him'.

This is why most of the time the football player of the year plays in the team that either dominates or does a lot better than predicted in that specific season.

I agree with Sal that JP was better last year. The thing was last year though, there were other stand-out players. This year there hasn't really been a sole dominating player so overall I can't really see anyone but JP getting it, even though he was slightly less good this time.

It is a philosophical question, I guess!

Not sure JP has quite the big game presence he once had. Still some very good performances but although he's never gone missing for me he's been slightly less effective against the top sides. Having said that, he's been a marked man in some of those games.

Can't Peacock be awarded the Albert Goldthorpe Medal instead?

Or is Danny Brough the permanent owner of it?

Seems to me that most of the individual gongs given out in recent seasons seem to lack as much credibility as Super League itself.

A failure to win would leave Brough with an ego as bruised as his testicles. He'd doubtless cancel league express and switch allegiance to league weekly in a trice.

on the saints forum 4 pages slagging him off how past it he is this season,thats his own fans saying it.dont think you will find any slagging peacock off on the leeds one.

Indeed, I'm sure the current Man of Steel, Albert Goldthorpe Medallist and unfortunate runner-up to Thurston and Inglis for the Golden Boot best player in the world award will not be amused. If League Express owned the Dally M, he'd have won that too, despite not playing in the NRL.