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| Quote ="rhinoms"You don't know how long during that stint he was trying to shake off the injury though so it's an irrelevent stat.
Plus early in the match ALL our pack struggled out of our own half yet the overall match stats won't reflect that because they were able to "up" their efforts during the rest of the match.'"
He went straight off after tweaking his hamstring so the stats are relevant, hence another pathetic showing from Leeds very own enforcer.................
2 year contract,really has had the desired impact hasn't it!!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"You don't know how long during that stint he was trying to shake off the injury though so it's an irrelevent stat.'"
I'd have thought he got injured and was substitutied. Do you have another reasonable explanation?
Quote ="rhinoms"Plus early in the match ALL our pack struggled out of our own half yet the overall match stats won't reflect that because they were able to "up" their efforts during the rest of the match.'"
Are those the overall match stats that show Leeds made 293 more metres than Warrington?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I think the Leeds stats over the season prove you are holding back so you can blitz the playoffs.
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however it's not easy to lift when it matters and thats the difficult part for the coach. time will tell
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| IMO pertinent ( after all the criticism on here) that JJB, Sinfield & Ablett only conceded 1 penalty between them, whereas everyone's favourite - JP - conceded 2.
But he doesn't get called a penalty machine despite giving away a third of all our penalties. On the other hand he's probably involved in a third of our tackles.
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| some people have agenda's though
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| Quote ="tad rhino"some people have agenda's though
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| Quote ="Richie Ramrod"He went straight off after tweaking his hamstring so the stats are relevant, hence another pathetic showing from Leeds very own enforcer.................
2 year contract,really has had the desired impact hasn't it!!'"
He was struggling with it in out attacking sets before he finally went off but don't let that fact get in the way.
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| Quote ="tvoc"I'd have thought he got injured and was substitutied. Do you have another reasonable explanation?
As ;posted above he was struggling BEFORE he was finally taken off!
Are those the overall match stats that show Leeds made 293 more metres than Warrington?'"
The overall stats don't reflect how we struggled early on in the 1st half to make major metres when kylie was fully fit and involved.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Am I missing something?
After what seemed like a longer than usual first stint which I'll repeat makes his stats particularly disappointing for a starting prop laying the platform.'"
Sorry, just typed the wrong number... it should read 14 (I just typed 24 but was thinking 14, if you know what I mean) is too many and our error rate seems to be heading gently upward, when it should be going the other way.
I agree about Kylie as well BTW.
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| how on earth did Leuluai get a 2 year deal
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| Because statistics are for mathematicians and assessing the qualities of a rugby player is best left to the experts.
Kylie put a massive shot on Morley early on.
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| Quote ="G1"Because statistics are for mathematicians and assessing the qualities of a rugby player is best left to the experts.
Kylie put a massive shot on Morley early on.'" indeed he did. but did morley go into hiding? did morley make less runs then he would have? infact did the tackle itself even effect morley, he got a fairly quick play the ball off it.
his stats are shocking, whether you're a fan or an expect.
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| Quote ="G1"Kylie put a massive shot on Morley early on.'"
Was that before or after Leuluai knocked on his second carry that gave Warrington the possession for their opening try?
Monaghan seemed to have a lot of room when sending Westwood clear for the supporting Mathers to score. The markers and the A defender (Leuluai) stood off there.
That said his first stint was shorter (at 22 minutes) than I initially thought so his stats aren't quite as poor as they first appeared to me.
Did he not return?
Played the full eighty according to [url=http://www.skysports.com/rugbyleague/match_facts/0,19935,11070_3160856,00.htmlthis[/url.
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| Ratu's stats are quite tidy.
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| Quote ="MHL"how on earth did Leuluai get a 2 year deal'"
Cheap??
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| Quote ="G1"Because statistics are for mathematicians and assessing the qualities of a rugby player is best left to the experts.
Kylie put a massive shot on Morley early on.'"
In the minutes they all had on the pitch, which Prop made the biggest impact and contribution to the game?
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| Quote ="MHL"how on earth did Leuluai get a 2 year deal'"
Because thankfully the powers that be at Headingley are brighter than you.
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| Diskins stats look pretty decent too. Only 1 missed tackle which is contrary to somes opinion on here that he was poor defensively
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Diskins stats look pretty decent too. Only 1 missed tackle which is contrary to somes opinion on here that he was poor defensively'"
He was MOM in the LE
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| Quote ="Old Feller"IMO pertinent ( after all the criticism on here) that JJB, Sinfield & Ablett only conceded 1 penalty between them, whereas everyone's favourite - JP - conceded 2.
But he doesn't get called a penalty machine despite giving away a third of all our penalties. On the other hand he's probably involved in a third of our tackles.
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That one penalty against JJB was the ridiculous obstruction decision as well wasn't it?
However, I think just like other weeks JJB is not getting the total missed tackles against his name that he should. He is missing plenty.
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| Quote ="G1"Because statistics are for mathematicians and assessing the qualities of a rugby player is best left to the experts.'"
Are these the same experts who recently said Hall and Watkins should be the Leeds wingers on current form?
Donald has scored seven in his last six appearances since then including a couple of match winners.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Are these the same experts who recently said Hall and Watkins should be the Leeds wingers on current form?
Donald has scored seven in his last six appearances since then including a couple of match winners.'"
Great to see scotty turn his form around and i don't mind admitting i was one of the posters saying it was time to drop him because of his form and how well watkins did.
There's no denying his confidence and form was low before he scored against quinns so it wouldn't of been outragous to see him dropped.
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| Donald's contribution V Warrington was crucial on several occassions. His first try was a classic piece of finishing, fielding the Briers option restart, the kick return that led to the McGuire try(?), his composure in gathering the two balls in the last minute.
Perhaps McClennan knows what he's doing afterall.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Great to see scotty turn his form around and i don't mind admitting i was one of the posters saying it was time to drop him because of his form and how well watkins did.
There's no denying his confidence and form was low before he scored against quinns so it wouldn't of been outragous to see him dropped.'"
To be honest, not convinced it has. Its amazing what some tries can do.
Donald will always finish well. Give him space and he will run it well. What has not changed, and we saw it again on Saturday, put an high kick up to him and he is simply horrendous.
What we are now getting is the right balance though. He is making up for his inability under high kicks, with the tries. All we were seeing before were the mistakes.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Donald's contribution V Warrington was crucial on several occassions. His first try was a classic piece of finishing, fielding the Briers option restart, the kick return that led to the McGuire try(?), his composure in gathering the two balls in the last minute.
Perhaps McClennan knows what he's doing afterall.'"
Like i said above it's great to see him back on form but at the time i posted about him being dropped i stand by that view.
Maybe he was informed he was on "borrowed time" as an automatic choice and it sparked him into life!!
Either way he's back and long may it continue!!
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