1: Warrington Wolves
2: Castleford Tigers
3: Leeds Rhinos
4: Wigan Warriors
5: Hull FC
6: St Helens
7: Huddersfield Giants
8: Salford Red Devils
9: Catalan Dragons
10: Wakefield Trinity
11: Leigh Centurions
12: Widnes Vikings

Top 4 play off sides
1:Wigan Warriors
2: Warrington Wolves
3: Castleford Tigers
4: Leeds

The 4 sides that re-join SL in 2018 will be

9: Catalan Dragons
10: Wakefield Trinity
11: Huddersfield Giants
12: Hull KR

GF winner:Castleford
CC winner:Leeds

1 – Wigan
2 - Warrington
3 - Hull
4 - Cas
5 – Saints
6 - Leeds
7 - Catalans
8 - Wakey
9 - Leigh
10 - Hudds
11 - Widnes
12 - Salford

Playoffs
1 - Wigan
2 - Warrington
3 - Cas
4 - Hull

Teams to come back up
Leigh
Hudds
Widnes
HKR

GF - Wigan
CC - Warrington

In the spirit of optimism borne from last season's embarrassment to the players' egos & that this will be some players' last hurrah, I am going with:

Wigan
Warrington
Leeds
Hull
Saints
Castleford
Catalans
Huddersfield
Wakefield
Leigh
Widnes
Salford

Top 4:
Wigan
Warrington
Leeds
Hull

Teams to return:
Wakefield
Leigh
Widnes
HKR

GF: Leeds
CC: Wigan

Regular Season

Warrington
Wigan
Castleford
Leeds
Hull FC
Saints
Catalans
Hudds
Salford
Wakefield
Leigh
Widnes

Play Offs
-----------
Warrington
Wigan
Leeds
Hull

Middle 8s top 4
------------------
Salford
Wakefield
Leigh
Hull KR

GF Warrington
CC Castleford
MPG: Hull KR v Widnes with Hull KR to win promotion.

Are you referring to me wanting to see what happened with Segeyaro before making a prediction last year?
If so, can you please explain how that's any different to you saying....

[uTranslation[/u: I therefore predicted a caveat-free 9th earlier in this thread since 9th just happens, by magic obviously, to be situated between 8th and 10th.

Your confusion is duly noted however.

Wigan
Cas
Warrington
Hull
Saints
Wakefield
Leigh
Catalans
Huddersfield
Salford
Leeds
Widnes


Teams to return:
Huddersfield
Leeds
Salford
HKR

GF: Wigan beat Cas
CC: Warrington beat Saints

Is caveat word of the month for February too then? How boring for us all.

You may well have [i[ufinally[/u[/i ended up predicting 9th (well done on making an actual prediction for the first time this decade by the way, we all knew you could do it one day!) but that still doesn't change the fact that you're a hypocrite as shown by my previous post.

1. Warrington
2. Wigan
3. Castleford
4. Hull
5. St.Helens
6. Catalans
7. Leeds
8. Hudds
9. Leigh
10.Wakefield
11.Widnes
12.Salford

Top 4
1. Warrington
2. Wigan
3. Castleford
4. Hull

Rejoin SL
1. Wakefield
2. Leigh
3. Widnes
4. HKR

GF Wire
CC Wigan

Regular season finishing positions:

1: Wigan
2: Hull
3: Warrington
4: Leeds
5: Castleford
6: St Helens
7: Catalans
8: Wakefield

9: Salford
10: Leigh
11: Huddersfield
12: Widnes

Play off sides:
1: Wigan
2: Warrington
3: Leeds
4: St Helens

the 4 sides that will rejoin sl in 2018 will be
9: Salford
10: Huddersfield
11: Widnes
12: Hull KR

GF winner: Leeds
CC winner: Castleford

Regular season finishing positions:

1: Warrington
2: Wigan
3: St Helens
4: Leeds
5: Castleford
6: Hull FC
7: Salford
8: Huddersfield
9: Wakefield
10: Leigh
11: Catalan
12: Widnes

Play off sides:
1: Wigan
2: Warrington
3: Leeds
4: St Helens

The 4 sides that will rejoin sl in 2018 will be
9: Wakefield
10: Catalan
11: Widnes
12: Hull KR

GF winner: Warrington
CC winner: Leeds

Regular season finishing positions:

1: Warrington
2: Wigan
3: Hull FC
4: Castleford
5: St Helens
6: Rhinos
7: Catalan
8: Huddersfield
9: Wakefield
10: Salford
11: Leigh
12: Widnes

Play off sides:
1: Warrington
2: Wigan
3: Hull FC
4: St Helens

The 4 sides that will rejoin sl in 2018 will be
9: Wakefield
10: Salford
11: Widnes
12: Batley

GF winner: Warrington
CC winner: Castleford

Ian Millward's regular placings, nicked from the wakey board:

1 Warrington
2 Wigan
3 St Helens
4 Castleford
5 Hull
6 Leeds
7 Catalans
8 Salford
9 Leigh
10 Huddersfield
11 Widnes
12 Wakefield

Hasn't gone down well with at least one punter on there

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

On the VT prediction thread the Wildcats fans were getting into a right state whenever someone dare tip them for the bottom 4.

They're great. Apoplectic with rage over an incorrect report that Bradford have their minus 12 points back.

Wasn't that rumour started by the Twitter account @gledders1983 ?

I've no idea, I'm too uncool for social media. If it is, I'll have to credit Mick with a sense of humour.

It's definitely not Mick Gledhill's account.

I think it's a Fax fan who regularly pokes fun by mimicking him.

Yesterday the parody account was posing as BBC Sport along with that rumour.

Today it is posing as the RFL



The vast majority of the RL demographic on social media are so parochially thick, they fall for it every time.

think saints are well overrated, cant see them making the four over Hull us or even cas, i,d put them 6th or even 7th. think wakey have strongest squad they have ever had in super league 6 or 7th not out of reach

They have a good pack but average three quarters and the halfs are not great with Matty Smith missing so they will probably struggle to cut loose on teams.

We will probably know a lot more about them and us for the upcoming season by Thursday at 10pm

I would've had Saints to make the top 4 before Matty Smith got injured. They have an ok set of fixtures for the period he'll be out for but if they struggle in his absence to win as many as they should they then have a tough run when he should be fit again so could be tricky for them. They were slightly lucky to make it back to the top 4 last year with Catalans capitulating, probably won't be as fortunate if they have to play catch up again.

Saints have a better chance with Smith injured.

I don't.

He's not the best or the most exciting HB around clearly but he can be very effective on his day and they way Saints play he's a good fit for them imo. Considering the backup option appears to be Tommy Lee I know who I'd rather have playing if I were a Saints fan.

1 Warrington
2 Hull
3 Wigan
4 Castleford
5 St Helens
6 Leeds
7 Catalans
8 Hudedersfield
9 Widnes
10 Wakefield
11 Salford
12 Leigh

Playoffs:
Warrington
Hull
Wigan
Castleford

Four sides rejoining:
Widnes
Wakefield
Salford
Leigh

GF Winners
Warrington
CC Winners
Wigan

Smith is effective when it's peeing down with rain & his average kicking game seems to shine. Granted Tommy Lee is not much of an improvement but I was wondering whether they would move Lomax back there or Fages, who are far more inventive.