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| What's incredible is that for so many years major milestones - bar possibly appearances - were few and far between. Once the existing players had retired who had been playing before I started watching in 81, there was virtually nothing to report on the record front for years. A testimony to how stable the side has been for a long time now.
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| tvoc, are you doing the OPTA threads this year?
And as for milestones, this team/squad must have the record for most records; there seems to be a new one every week.
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| For the upcoming milestone, I think they should make the pillar in the middle of the South Stand into a big Blue Peter style totaliser. Every time Sir Kev gets more points, someone should paint on another bit until he hits the target. I don't think the man himself would approve though. He's far too modest.
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Quote ="Glenn Quagmire"tvoc, are you doing the OPTA threads this year?
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No, unfortunately some things have had to give way. This season I simply have to devote my spare time to catching up on last season. I was gently persuaded to carry on last year but the backlog elsewhere has grown and grown. The alternative is to just let some archiving go and I'm not yet prepared to do that.
So sorry but there will be no Opta threads from me and no voluntary monitoring of the prediction comp - although with Foxy's involvement that wouldn't have been neccessary anyway albeit a coincidence.
I will still score the Southstander Regular Round League table at season end though - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=515106
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Thanks for that. I'll pass the information back up the chain for clarification.
(Tricky things official statistics, knowing what counts and what doesn't and not something I would know enough about to comment on. Possibly explains why I concentrate on Leeds 1st grade)
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Quote ="Glenn Quagmire"tvoc, are you doing the OPTA threads this year?
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No, unfortunately some things have had to give way. This season I simply have to devote my spare time to catching up on last season. I was gently persuaded to carry on last year but the backlog elsewhere has grown and grown. The alternative is to just let some archiving go and I'm not yet prepared to do that.
So sorry but there will be no Opta threads from me and no voluntary monitoring of the prediction comp - although with Foxy's involvement that wouldn't have been neccessary anyway albeit a coincidence.
I will still score the Southstander Regular Round League table at season end though - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=515106
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Thanks for that. I'll pass the information back up the chain for clarification.
(Tricky things official statistics, knowing what counts and what doesn't and not something I would know enough about to comment on. Possibly explains why I concentrate on Leeds 1st grade)
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| tvoc, if you have a spreadsheet format that you can e-mail me I'll do my very best to update the weekly OPTA stats from the Engage Superleague site since i presume that is the source you previously.
I may miss an odd week due to holidays but will see if one of my lads will do it to cover those weeks.
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| Ian Kirke will not thank you for this
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Quote ="tvoc"No, unfortunately some things have had to give way. This season I simply have to devote my spare time to catching up on last season. I was gently persuaded to carry on last year but the backlog elsewhere has grown and grown. The alternative is to just let some archiving go and I'm not yet prepared to do that.
So sorry but there will be no Opta threads from me and no voluntary monitoring of the prediction comp - although with Foxy's involvement that wouldn't have been neccessary anyway albeit a coincidence.
I will still score the Southstander Regular Round League table at season end though - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=515106'"
No problem, it was fun while it lasted!
Hopefully Old Feller's plans come off.
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Quote ="tvoc"No, unfortunately some things have had to give way. This season I simply have to devote my spare time to catching up on last season. I was gently persuaded to carry on last year but the backlog elsewhere has grown and grown. The alternative is to just let some archiving go and I'm not yet prepared to do that.
So sorry but there will be no Opta threads from me and no voluntary monitoring of the prediction comp - although with Foxy's involvement that wouldn't have been neccessary anyway albeit a coincidence.
I will still score the Southstander Regular Round League table at season end though - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=515106'"
No problem, it was fun while it lasted!
Hopefully Old Feller's plans come off.
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| Quote ="Old Feller"tvoc, if you have a spreadsheet format that you can e-mail me I'll do my very best to update the weekly OPTA stats from the Engage Superleague site since i presume that is the source you previously.
I may miss an odd week due to holidays but will see if one of my lads will do it to cover those weeks.'"
I've not set anything up for this season but if you provide an e-mail address via the private message function I can send you the two spreadsheets I used last season for this specific task.
They were created using 'Excel 97' but I imagine will still open with newer versions but be warned it'll take some effort to adapt them for this season - which is partly why I haven't done so myself.
I don't know whether they will prove to be more a help or a hindrance overall but you're welcome to have a look. They worked for me but obviously I designed and knew my way around them which probably helped.
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| Quote ="tvoc"
So sorry but there will be no Opta threads from me and no voluntary monitoring of the prediction comp - although with Foxy's involvement that wouldn't have been neccessary anyway albeit a coincidence.
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Already have to make 1 correction from last week (although using Excel means I have methods for double checking scores - sadly I mistook Rhinos for Rovers for one person). I did think about asking everyone to post their predictions using a search friendly method so I could just copy and paste it but I fear that probably wouldn't happen.
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| Quote ="FoxyRhino"I did think about asking everyone to post their predictions using a search friendly method so I could just copy and paste it but I fear that probably wouldn't happen.'"
I'd make the request. As long as the instructions are clear I think posters will tend to oblige if it's not too arduous.
I did something similar (on a small scale) with the Southstander Regular Round Finishing Table thread and it was almost universally adopted, which will be a big help come the season end.
I immediately noticed a new variation with your comp which needed a double take to clarify. I won't name drop who started the trend but he'd be the last person I'd have thought would welcome the confusion.
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| Quote ="FoxyRhino"Quote ="tvoc"
So sorry but there will be no Opta threads from me and no voluntary monitoring of the prediction comp - although with Foxy's involvement that wouldn't have been neccessary anyway albeit a coincidence.
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Already have to make 1 correction from last week (although using Excel means I have methods for double checking scores - sadly I mistook Rhinos for Rovers for one person). I did think about asking everyone to post their predictions using a search friendly method so I could just copy and paste it but I fear that probably wouldn't happen.'"
Do it. If people can't follow a format then their entry doesn't count.
If you set out the fixtures and ask people to copy, paste and amend it shouldn't be too hard.
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| Quote ="tvoc"I immediately noticed a new variation with your comp which needed a double take to clarify. I won't name drop who started the trend but he'd be the last person I'd have thought would welcome the confusion.'"
Not quite sure what you are talking about.
What I basically do is copy and paste the prediction into the spreadsheet (avoids mistyping numbers) so if all I had to paste was a team name (or a 3 letter code - like the Twitter hashtage the RFL are trying to encourage) and a number then it cuts down on the width of the columns in the spreadsheet and means I don't have to edit it.
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| Quote ="FoxyRhino"Not quite sure what you are talking about.'"
An entry that might look something like this:
ST HELENS to beat Salford City Reds by 12
CATALAN DRAGONS to beat Hull FC by 16
LEEDS RHINOS to beat Wigan Warriors by 18
HUDDERSFIELD GIANTS to beat Widnes Vikings by 16
BRADFORD BULLS to beat Castleford Tigers by 12
HULL KR to beat Wakefield Wildcats by 10
WARRINGTON WOLVES to beat London Broncos by 30
The convention has always been to read off the last bit (winning team by how many) but if you did in this instance you would be 100% wrong.
An unneccesary distraction IMO.
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I'd try showing posters what you want format wise on next week's thread and see what kind of response you get.
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| Quote ="tvoc"An entry that might look something like this:
ST HELENS to beat Salford City Reds by 12
CATALAN DRAGONS to beat Hull FC by 16
LEEDS RHINOS to beat Wigan Warriors by 18
HUDDERSFIELD GIANTS to beat Widnes Vikings by 16
BRADFORD BULLS to beat Castleford Tigers by 12
HULL KR to beat Wakefield Wildcats by 10
WARRINGTON WOLVES to beat London Broncos by 30
The convention has always been to read off the last bit (winning team by how many) but if you did in this instance you would be 100% wrong.
An unneccesary distraction IMO.
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I'd try showing posters what you want format wise on next week's thread and see what kind of response you get.'"
I see what you mean. That's not something that would cause me problems though.
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Quote ="tvoc" Thanks for that. I'll pass the information back up the chain for clarification.
(Tricky things official statistics, knowing what counts and what doesn't and not something I would know enough about to comment on. Possibly explains why I concentrate on Leeds 1st grade)'"
With many thanks again to =#0000BFA-Fire-Inside clarification has now been provided:
The RFL stance on the Northern Union V All Golds fixture was that it doesn't count towards players' totals. The main reason being that tries were only awarded 3 points so it isn't regarded as a 'full' international.
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I said I'd provide a Kevin Sinfield Leeds All-Time record points chase update after each game so I guess here it is:
After Round 2's conversion Sinfield is now on 2,865 (55 to tie 2,920 - 56 to claim the record outright)
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(Tricky things official statistics, knowing what counts and what doesn't and not something I would know enough about to comment on. Possibly explains why I concentrate on Leeds 1st grade)'"
With many thanks again to =#0000BFA-Fire-Inside clarification has now been provided:
The RFL stance on the Northern Union V All Golds fixture was that it doesn't count towards players' totals. The main reason being that tries were only awarded 3 points so it isn't regarded as a 'full' international.
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I said I'd provide a Kevin Sinfield Leeds All-Time record points chase update after each game so I guess here it is:
After Round 2's conversion Sinfield is now on 2,865 (55 to tie 2,920 - 56 to claim the record outright)
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| Quote ="tvoc"With many thanks again to =#0000BFA-Fire-Inside clarification has now been provided:
The RFL stance on the Northern Union V All Golds fixture was that it doesn't count towards players' totals. The main reason being that tries were only awarded 3 points so it isn't regarded as a 'full' international.
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I said I'd provide a Kevin Sinfield Leeds All-Time record points chase update after each game so I guess here it is:
After Round 2's conversion Sinfield is now on 2,865 (55 to tie 2,920 - 56 to claim the record outright)'"
What was Sinfield's conversion per game average for last year so we can best guess when he'll reach this target?
TIA
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I had a look at that on page 66: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=341569&start=657
We were potentially looking at his 8th appearance of this season on the basis of last season's averages. After Saturday's comparative anomoly it could now be looking tight for the 8th and may extend into a 9th appearance.
Only time will tell.
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I had a look at that on page 66: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=341569&start=657
We were potentially looking at his 8th appearance of this season on the basis of last season's averages. After Saturday's comparative anomoly it could now be looking tight for the 8th and may extend into a 9th appearance.
Only time will tell.
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Quote ="tvoc"I had a look at that on page 66: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=341569&start=657
We were potentially looking at his 8th appearance of this season on the basis of last season's averages. After Saturday's comparative anomoly it could now be looking tight for the 8th and may extend into a 9th appearance.
Only time will tell.'"
Cheers bud.
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We were potentially looking at his 8th appearance of this season on the basis of last season's averages. After Saturday's comparative anomoly it could now be looking tight for the 8th and may extend into a 9th appearance.
Only time will tell.'"
Cheers bud.
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| Sir Kev has now captained Leeds to ten trophies. 5 titles, 3 World Club and two League Leaders Shields.
Has any other Club Captain done so well?
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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"Sir Kev has now captained Leeds to ten trophies. 5 titles, 3 World Club and two League Leaders Shields.
Has any other Club Captain done so well?'"
How many capt's did wigan have in that period when they won all thoss CCs and championship's ?they may have had mor than two
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| Quote ="tvoc"I said I'd provide a Kevin Sinfield Leeds All-Time record points chase update after each game so I guess here it is:'"
After the WCC game V Manly - Sinfield is now on 2,871 (49 to tie 2,920 - 50 to claim the record outright)
It's been a fairly quiet start on the points accumulation front so far in 2012 only averaging 6 against an overall average in 2011 of just over 9. Hopefully Sunday will be an opportunity to up the ratio a bit.
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Kevin Sinfield's next SL Regular Round Start will be his 300th for the club becoming the first Leeds player to do so in the process. Only one other Leeds player has passed 200 in their Headingley career and that was Keith Senior who finished on 295.
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Danny McGuire now has the opportunity to claim 5th spot on the Leeds SL Reg Rd Appearance ladder all for himself. He currently stands tied with Francis Cummins and Jamie Jones-Buchanan on 217.
1 - Kevin Sinfield 323
2 - Keith Senior 297
3 - Rob Burrow 266
4 - Barrie McDermott 219
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=5 - Jamie Jones-Buchanan 217
=5 - Danny McGuire 217
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Kevin Sinfield's final conversion against Manly brought up Leeds' 3,000 point scored in all cup encounters of the SL Era coming from 105 games in total.
Challenge Cup - 2,022
SL Play Offs - 744
World Club - 170
Premiership - 64
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Rob Burrow made his Leeds Cup starting forward debut V Manly in his 65th cup outing.
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| As interesting and informative as ever TVOC.
PS. That was intended as a compliment!!!
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| 38 points for Sinfield then 5 games may do it,either way it should be achieved before Easter so I will miss it .If its at HQ it will be a traditional Headingley standing ovation.
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| tvoc - assuming you have them to hand, could you put up Sinfield's points record for each season? Interested to see how he's progressed.
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