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| Quote ="tvoc"Bradford have now become the 3rd team to concede over a thousand points V Leeds during the SL Era.
London/Harlequins - 1,220
St Helens - 1,050
Bradford - 1,012
From the Leeds point of view it appears the order of preference to play Bradford is:
1 - At a neutral venue
2 - In Bradford
3 - At Headingley
The next time Leeds and Bradford meet it will be the 50th clash of the SL Era.
The Keith Senior try was Leeds' 100th of the season (18 games - All Comps)
The lowest total set by Leeds during the SL Era was 116 (26 games) in 1996 while the highest was 258 (36 games) in 2005
Kevin Sinfield has now kicked 700 Goals + 7 Drop Goals in the SL Regular Rounds while Rob Burrow needs 2 for his century of place kicks in the same.'"
TVOC you are a Stat's God!
Interesting one about our least favourite venue to play Bradford being at home!
I suspect that when the lads play at the Grotton they are just focussed on getting the job done as quickly as possible, so they can leave and get back to a proper stadium!
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| HOW do you know all this?
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| Quote ="Bang"HOW do you know all this?'"
Do not question the power of the TVOC!
He is simply a genius!
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| Quote ="Bang"HOW do you know all this?'"
DONT QUESTION HISTORIANS ,
VALUE THEM
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Lewis Jones 2,920
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How many would that have been with 4 points for a try?
Am I correct in thinking that we'd be unable to adjust it to 1 point for a drop goal as records never made a distinction between penalties, conversions and drop goals?
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| Quote ="Charmless Nerk"How many would that have been with 4 points for a try?'"
Lewis Jones scored 144 tries for Leeds currently placing him 10th on their all time list but now coming under pressure from McGuire and Senior.
Quote ="Charmless Nerk"Am I correct in thinking that we'd be unable to adjust it to 1 point for a drop goal as records never made a distinction between penalties, conversions and drop goals?'"
Correct, prior to the reduction to 1 point for the 1974/5 season drop goals were just one of the three forms of goal and all were valued at 2 points obviously.
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Am I right in thinking that Kevin Sinfield moved equal second with Joe Thompson in the Leeds total points table with the drop goal against Wigan?
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| Quote ="SpicyRhino"TVOC
Am I right in thinking that Kevin Sinfield moved equal second with Joe Thompson in the Leeds total points table with the drop goal against Wigan?'"
[url=http://boards.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=357931Probably[/url
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| Last week Kevin Sinfield joined Joe Thompson on 1,883 points for Leeds, here is Sinfield's total broke down between comps:
SL Regular Rounds:
Played 214 + 24, 39 Tries, 700 Goals, 7 Drop Goals, 1563 Points
SL Play Offs:
Played 16 + 1, 2 Tries, 42 Goals, 4 Drop Goals, 96 Points
Challenge Cup:
Played 31 + 2, 14 Tries, 73 Goals, 4 Drop Goals, 206 Points
World Club Challenge:
Played 2 + 0, 0 Tries, 8 Goals, 2 Drop Goals, 18 Points
Total:
Played 263 + 27, 55 Tries, 823 Goals, 17 Drop Goals, 1883 Points
Rob Burrow needs 4 points for 700 for Leeds in all comps and
Keith Senior needs 4 points for 500 for Leeds in the SL Regular Rounds.
If Nick Scruton plays from the bench it'll be his 50th from there.
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| Awesome - simply awesome some of these stats - what did people do before data bases?
Some of these cricket bods would be impressed with these
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino" what did people do before data bases?'"
Same as I did probably. Go through a boatload of paper and pens and spend an age scribbling and cross-checking.
These days I use nothing more sophisticated than Excel '97. I have no real knowledge of the programme and basically anybody with a computer and a couple of hours to spare each week (with a bit of discipline and attention to detail) could do the same, ongoing.
The difficultly is filling in the gaps.
I'm only amazed that a club the size of Leeds doesn't have this type of info on-line.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Same as I did probably. Go through a boatload of paper and pens and spend an age scribbling and cross-checking.
These days I use nothing more sophisticated than Excel '97. I have no real knowledge of the programme and basically anybody with a computer and a couple of hours to spare each week (with a bit of discipline and attention to detail) could do the same, ongoing.
The difficultly is filling in the gaps.
I'm only amazed that a club the size of Leeds doesn't have this type of info on-line.'"
TVOC they should pay YOU to put YOUR stats on the website!
Don't sell yourself short and if anyone from the club is reading this, I suspect you should stick your hands in your pocket and get a great stats service... from TVOC!
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"TVOC they should pay YOU to put YOUR stats on the website!'"
Behave Gary, you couldn't afford me.
Leeds RLFC will have access to the same info I have collected and collated since the loss of Ken Dalby and the demise of his Headingley Stories.
They wouldn't need me if they decided to publish but it's still a shame that they don't (publish that is.)
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| Quote ="tvoc"Behave Gary, you couldn't afford me.
Leeds RLFC will have access to the same info I have collected and collated since the loss of Ken Dalby and the demise of his Headingley Stories.
They wouldn't need me if they decided to publish
but it's still a shame that they don't (publish that is.)'"
They might not need you but maybe they might want you... you could always publish anyway????
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"... you could always publish anyway????'"
It's not something I've considered. I wouldn't know where to start even if I wanted to.... and I'm not even sure that I do.
Besides which, I do publish.... you're reading it and that makes at least two of us.
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At last Gareth Ellis did the decent thing and got the 8 points he's needed all season long to join the Leeds 100 point club.
Ellis becomes the 31st inductee of the SL Era and the 11th member of the present squad.
Here are the current members of the squad with their standing in the Leeds SL Era (All Comps) points list:
1 - Kevin Sinfield..... 1,893
3 - Rob Burrow..... 704
5 - Danny McGuire..... 562
6 - Keith Senior..... 560
11 - Scott Donald.....248
=18 - Matt Diskin..... 156
20 - Ali Lauitiiti..... 152
22 - Brent Webb..... 140
23 - Lee Smith..... 130
25 - Jamie Jones-Buchanan..... 128
31 - Gareth Ellis..... 100
Meanwhile
Leeds SL Era Top Try Scorer (All Comps)
=1 - Danny McGuire..... 140
=1 - Keith Senior..... 140
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Besides which, I do publish.... you're reading it and that makes at least two of us.
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At last Gareth Ellis did the decent thing and got the 8 points he's needed all season long to join the Leeds 100 point club.
Ellis becomes the 31st inductee of the SL Era and the 11th member of the present squad.
Here are the current members of the squad with their standing in the Leeds SL Era (All Comps) points list:
1 - Kevin Sinfield..... 1,893
3 - Rob Burrow..... 704
5 - Danny McGuire..... 562
6 - Keith Senior..... 560
11 - Scott Donald.....248
=18 - Matt Diskin..... 156
20 - Ali Lauitiiti..... 152
22 - Brent Webb..... 140
23 - Lee Smith..... 130
25 - Jamie Jones-Buchanan..... 128
31 - Gareth Ellis..... 100
Meanwhile
Leeds SL Era Top Try Scorer (All Comps)
=1 - Danny McGuire..... 140
=1 - Keith Senior..... 140'"
Good old Kev is way out in front, as you would expect!
Am I correct in assuming that a small fat Welsh bloke is at number 2 in that list?
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"Awesome - simply awesome some of these stats - '"
Knowing what a huge fan of Tony Smith you were at Leeds I trust you enjoyed [url=http://viewtopic.php?t=319317&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0these[/url
Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Good old Kev is way out in front, as you would expect!
Am I correct in assuming that a small fat Welsh bloke is at number 2 in that list?'"
Quite so.
Iestyn Harris - Pl 131+ 8 + 1(NPS), Tries 65, Goals 594, Drop Goals 7, Points 1,455
Had he stayed..... (and presumably inherited a high percentage of Sinfield's goals) he'd probably now be looking down on everyone in the all time points list at Leeds, including the legend that is Lewis Jones.
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| On the subject of records, I wonder if TVOC or anyone else can confirm whether Scott Donald is now closing in on the club's all-time record for consecutive appearances.....
I believe centre/winger Carl Gibson set the record with 91 games in a row between 1988 and 1990 - Scotty will play his 86th consecutively at Harlequins this week.
I'm sure no one has surpassed that figure in the interim 18 years.
The all-time record is a phenomenal 239 consecutive games for Widnes by hooker Keith Elwell between 1977-82.
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| Quote ="miscreant"On the subject of records, I wonder if TVOC or anyone else can confirm whether Scott Donald is now closing in on the club's all-time record for consecutive appearances.....
I believe centre/winger Carl Gibson set the record with 91 games in a row between 1988 and 1990 - Scotty will play his 86th consecutively at Harlequins this week.
I'm sure no one has surpassed that figure in the interim 18 years.
The all-time record is a phenomenal 239 consecutive games for Widnes by hooker Keith Elwell between 1977-82.'"
Read your'e donald thread
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| Thanks for that !
Bloody hell fancy forgetting Franny
I think the figure was 179 not 178 - between 1998 and 2003.
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| Quote ="miscreant"I think the figure was 179 not 178 - between 1998 and 2003.'"
I agree with the 179 consecutive appearances for Francis Cummins.
Carl Gibson's 91 were all consecutive starts (as well as appearances) whereas the best run of starts Francis Cummins achieved was 87.
Therefore in respect of consecutive starts Carl Gibson's 91 is Scott Donald's next target.
Meanwhile: [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/leeds/7448094.stmRadio Leeds Sinfield tribute[/url link including Ron Hill's commentary on the Donald try.
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| Quote ="tvoc"
Leeds SL Era Top Try Scorer (All Comps)
=1 - Danny McGuire..... 140
=1 - Keith Senior..... 140'"
After the Harlequins game Keith now heads the list alone on 141.
Also at The Stoop:
Kylie Leuluai made his 50th Appearance for Leeds
Jamie Jones-Buchanan made his 50th appearance from the bench in the SL Regular Rounds
Simon Worrall became the 1st Leeds player in 163 matches (Danny McGuire - 26/07/2002) to not get on from the bench in the SL Regular Rounds
Looking forward
Ryan Bailey needs 1 start for 100 in the SL Regular Rounds
Scott Donald needs 1 try for 50 in the SL Regular Rounds
Rob Burrow needs 1 (2 point) goal to move clear of Graham Holroyd and move into 3rd place on Leeds' place kicking list during the SL Era
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| Quote ="tvoc"So they say.
I have no (independent) way of verifying what Farrell did or didn't do so it's not something I'd personally look to include here.
The last time Rob Burrow missed a kick at goal for Leeds was V Bradford, 7th July 2006. That game ended with his match winning conversion off the Southstand touchline into the empty building site.
2006 - 12
2007 - 5
2008 - 7
Not sure if it can turn into a 'genuine' attempt at the world record with him only filling in as a back up kicker but it's not too shabby.'"
What a time to end his run tonight.
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| Quote ="FoxyRhino"What a time to end his run tonight.'" You have to give him credit though you could see him say that he'd take it on when asked.
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| Quote ="redeverready"You have to give him credit though you could see him say that he'd take it on when asked.'"
Agreed. In a way, it would have been a litte better if it had been way off target rather than drifting agonisingly wide.
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