Even more reason to respect the possession rather than trying to play dry weather football.

We got tired because we p1$$ed possesion away and couldn't stop Cas ploughing up the pitch into our 20. Likewise we were unable to carry the ball out or kick effectively. Only stopping the opposition go-forwrd when they are within 10 of your line is not a defensive tactic most coaches would teach their players.
Agreed though that Cas always turn it up a level against us, and it's difficult to fault the effort the boys put in. We did get the two points (and I'm happier about it than our captain appeared to be), but even I felt like we robbed them, and I've seen Leeds lose planty like that in the past so I shouldn't have sympathy really.
Two points at Cas is always welcome, especially as there is no relegation now so we are not contractually obliged to help them out every year.

Leeds were pretty poor though, although I will say this, they bloody stuck in there when most teams would have folded.

Big raps for Peacock who is just a machine.

As for the Senior debate I agree with Bywater, he was poor, his slap the ball forward from the cross field kick was funny as hell!! His dropped ball comic book capers weren't much better either.

Every team we play seems to make yardage so much easier than us. That is one of two things, the ref is not taking the oppossition as far back (which I dont think is the case), or our forwards are simply not big enough without faster ruck areas.

I thought leeds were sh[iit[/ie last night for the most part. Their effort was outstanding, and thier will to win was also impressive. But as a collective of players they were poor. No organization, poor choices and decisions, and simply not using their brains. Remember that Cas team were missing 4 first choice players. But the fact that we were down to 15 deserves some praise.

Webb wants shooting on last nights performance, and to be honest, just like Donald its not the first time this season he has looked that bad.

Thought, McGuire (individually), JJB, Smith, Senior, Peacock, were very good. The rest, simply not.

Which is why I dont agree on the Senior argument. He was pathetic with that kick across, but he run some great lines last night, and was always looking for the ball to take it in. Him and Smith made more yardage than the forwards in that last 15 minutes.

I also dont agree with people on the disciplinary issue. It is annoying. But I just dont think refs are consistent with the decisions they make. Some of the things Leeds get pulled for that people are now moaning about, like holding down, could have further problems if they did not push the boundaries.

Didn't think Webb was that bad to be honest, I can't remember any mistake other than the dropped bomb which I doubt many fullbacks would have taken in those conditions.

As for Senior, he was garbage, his legs have gone, his sideways movement is nill and his ball handling ability is starting to look scarily poor, in a big game he will cost us.

Unfortunately for that viewpoint, in a big game he's the only Leeds three-quarter who's likely to pose any threat as well.

What caused Donald's injury last night? A sharp gust of wind? It looked bizarre from the amount of contact.

Lucky result, but the game i believe hinged on the injuries to Rob Burrows and Donald, before them we were hammering Cass. It is been clear for much of the season when Burrows plays well, we did and he was well suited to the conditions. Very worried about the lack of the performance from the forwards, they allowed Cass to dominate at times. Webb another poor game. But on the positive i thought McGuire had a good game which makes a change.

But we grinded out the win, that was vital, a few weeks ago we would have lost the game.

My brother has a view of Donald, it generally goes along the lines of, "when the weather gets tough the ginner gets going".

I think its more due to the fact that at this moment in time he just doesnt fancy anything that includes wearing a Leeds shirt, playing outside a multiple choice centre and running either with or without a ball!!

Starting the game with a full wet set up proved invaluable as well, as Cas slithered about on their intermediates.

Never understood players who don't wear full studs on anything but concrete. I got more grip, even on fairly hard grounds with full studs than anything else, and certainl far more than other guys with moulded or short studs. I wore them during pre-season most of the time as well unless it really was solid ground. The way pitches are watered these days I can't get my head around it.

Well said Tad. Good post.

I have moulded blades. Sweeeeeet!

the F.A. have been trying to ban them for years.i have seen photos of injuries caused by them. as adidas plough millions into football they haven't a chance of banning them though

Blades? Didn't they get banned from Sunday League football anyway?

not yet no

Scum have banned all thier players from wearing them. I've just Googled it. Mine have served me well.

i liked mine, it's just they tear and rip flesh instead of just making a hole as studs do

I'm not a dirty player anyway. I do like a good tackle though me.

Ooo Errrrr sailorrrrr!

So why didn't we respect possession then? Do the players not deserve criticism for dumb footie?

Woah there horsey. I only agreed with what Tad said.

Your kidding right? seriously, you can not possibly have seen the game to come out with that.

Webb missed miles more than the dropped bomb. I dont think he took any bomb on the full. He let most things bounce, causing huge problems. He could not beat a man. He was slow returning the kicks. All in all his performance was woefull.

Senior makes one mistake by flapping at a kick, and you think his performance was worse than Webbs?

Look you are clueless, other than one bomb what did Webb drop?

And if you think Senior made one mistake you didn't go to the game, he dropped the ball twice when coming away from his own line, one should have cost us the game on the first fooking tackle!!

Take the blinkers off and get a grip.

Two bombs for a start.

I think DISA is right, you evidently didn't see the game.

But did he though?

Are you talking about the one he knocked back showing exeptional intelligence playing in those conditions, like I said Webb played well, Senior was shocking.

He did well last night.

HTH