Yeah, last season I saw him give an interview to sky after one of games he had a right dig at the players saying they were not good enough or something along those lines.

From an outside point of view there did seem to be teething problems last year with him and drew re-who the "chief" was!!
If that's sorted and you keep him with drew and obst they'll cause many teams problems.

Yeah last season that is where our season went down the pan. They both like to run the show and take charge so they clashed.

They seemed to have sorted it out this season. If I had to chose one of them though it would be Broughy as Drew is coming to the end of his career and I believe Drews contract runs out at the end of the season

TBH Brough has played some of his best rugby under Kear and its no suprise that he is doing it under him again. Strange player Brough, deffo splits the RL public.

The league table and who is in and out of the Challenge Cup would suggest otherwise.

The giant's got lucky with the draw and haven't suffered half the injurie's wakey have. H-T-H

It doesn't help at all.

The Giants is what it says a "Giant" step up, if Brough went there.

You mention Kear is building a good squad. What do you think the Giants have done? that club will go from strength to strength now. And as for injuries, there is a good argument they have a better strength in depth than we have right now.

Brough has some rubbish hair doos though.

Just on Hudds: Didn't Greg McNally sign for them because he said he had more chance of first team RL than he did at Leeds? Hudds have far more competition at half back than us.

I know how much importance you like to place on League position when assessing a team's current strength, that's all.



Oddly Wakefield and Huddersfield have yet to go head to head this season (won't until round 14) but it's usually a hotly contested match. Perhaps that will be another indicator of which direction Brough will be heading if he does go.

I don't know, did he? I remember saying on here that I didn't see him coming to Leeds at this stage of his career due to the length of contracts Burrow, McGuire and Leeds were committed to running through to the end of 2013.

That's a fair comment re Leeds' halfback strength though, which seems to basically rely on Burrow and McGuire being honest and highly motivated as individuals. The only alternative appears to remove Sinfield from his natural position within the team to firefight when one is unavailable.

the wildcats did seem to be a better side when brough was out injured.

coincidence or not?

We were winning games but then when Broughy came back it seemed to clash with the injuries to 2 of our key forwards (Stosic and Bibey)

Broughy is quality player but most players would find it hard to play behind a pack getting dominated.

Hope he stays at Wakey but have a feeling he will go to Hudds or else where

I hope Atkins stays at Wakey. I also hope Shenton stays at Cas. That would be a real sign that SL is evening out, and for the sake of fans at other clubs they should not automatically expect/fear that their best young players will look to move to Leeds/Sts.

You know you almost sound like a Rugby League fan rather than a Leeds or Broncs fan.

I understand and sympathise with your views on this but as Cas and Wakey are probably not able to spend upto a full salary cap isn't there an issue that the development of such players is at risk having to play alongside inferior team-mates (NRL journeymen etc)? Would Gareth Ellis have continued his development as witnessed at Leeds had he stayed at a struggling club? I doubt it. This would not be the case if the competition was truly equal.

Until all 14 clubs in SL are able to spend the full salary cap we will still have an unequal competition. When this is no longer the case the likes of Leeds and Wigan simply won't be able to continue cherry picking poorer clubs, and until that day the likes of Shenton and Atkins are fair game IMO. Maybe there is an issue here about the level at which the cap is set but ultimately Cas and Wakey will never be able to compete consistently for silverware until they are able to compete financially.

1) I thought Cas and Wakey were spending the full cap?

2) The previous poster suggested Shenton and Atkins staying put would be asign of improvement in the level playing field, so the fact that Ellis left Wakey for Leeds previously would do more to suport that argument than rebutt it.

I am sure Ellis would have done just as well at Wakey. He got a better offer from Wakey too but decided he wanted to win things. He often said there was nothing more to it than wanting to win things.

One of best players we have had at Wakey, people go on about Solo. But IMO Ellis is a quality player and English too.

No not spending the full cap.

Wakey as a club has changed a lot since Ellis left.

Ah, thought they were.

I hope you're right on the 2nd point. Keeping Atkins could be a measure of that. Although I'm not convninced he's in the same class as Ellis was when he left.

Ellis was a one off; he was quality and has gone on to prove how good he is. I always thought he was best in super league, and it's great to say Wakeys started his success off

I hope we can keep hold of Atkins, give him a new deal a long with our other top young players. Leeds are always lined with Atkins though and I just have a feeling it will happen sooner or later.

The regulations allow all clubs to spend up to the full cap now, i.e. there's no 50% of turnover rule, but whether they want to, or can afford to, is another matter.

The cap is not the issue it once was. Every SL club is allowed to spend exactly the same under it if they choose to. Obviously other factors come into that decision when operating a business plan, where no two clubs are exactly alike.

There are now more clubs allegedly spending the full cap than there once was and at least one (or two this season) who clearly should be but choose not to.

Any club can spend the full cap if they wish and Wakefield were a top 5 club who went well in the playoffs when Ellis left to join us.

Don't get me wrong, if players move to clubs where they perceive they have a better chance of winning things or they don't like their current club for whatever reason, then thats fine. If its down to Leeds+ a few others being able to spend more then the comp will never be even.

Seeing a bunch of Leeds juniors do fantastically well over the past few years has added immensely to my enjoyment of what the side has achieved. There will always have to be the odd signing here or there - Aussies as well as Brits - but they should be the icing on the cake not the bulk of the side.

I just try and look at it from the point of view of fans from other clubs, and think how depressing it must be to hear all this talk of players possibly leaving to join 'bigger' clubs. If our own juniors had followed that route then McGuire et al would be at Sts, Bulls or Wigan as when they were breaking into the first team Leeds looked miles away from winning anything.