I'm sorry but were any of you at the game tonight. Ive come home, pardon my french but like the rest of the stranger leeds fans around me, I was seething with the cas fans. OK Biffer got smacked and he went down and there was a cheer, we all do it as you'd think it was a big hit. When a lad stays down though and the medical team rush on you think of the worse. Now what did the case fans do? Yes they started chanting the name of the lad who hit him. While still down they then went on to sing "senior is a ". finally after much time as Biffer was carried off the so called RL fans in the cas end behind the stick appluaded him. I dont say the C or the T swear words much but I did tonight. When a lad is out cold and this happens it makes me think I'd rather see wakey stay up and these mindless cretins be rid of for good. scum is too good a word to use on this lot tonight, it spoilt what should have been a very good evening.

Ok.

seems a certain few words were edited. suffice to say the match comissioner who is a family friend has reported it with high priority as it was yet another "blip" for cas

Anyway, get well soon Luke from all the Cas fans.

Meanwhile some plonkers want to start and drift wildly onto something really stupid. Good luck with that kid, i'm off to bed.

its in the match report, i cant go further than that. looks good for an SL license though

They sang "do it to Senior", to which he turned around waved and pretended he was in stitches laughing. And yes, I was at the game.

oh and thats better then? well done lads

What? Singing?

There was nothing wrong with the songs whatsoever.

However, I do wish Luke all the best. I hope he makes a quick and full recovery. He's a good kid and he belongs on the paddock.

so you condone what was done?

I am no doctor but that is a broken jaw! Thats how it goes in RL, am sure McGuire & Sinfield can give him some words of encouragement regarding missing out of CC final.

Didn't like the young kid who put shot on jumping about after he dropped him, getting beat by 32, 2 mins left???????? But guess he is young and will learn that the game is hard enough without resorting to WWF showboating....... What goes around comes around.

Unlucky Biffa, lets hope Kobe do protein shakes for next few weeks............

It was banter and jokes. I'm sure even the most ardent fan wouldn't seriously wish any injury on a player. There was some stuff I did disagree with tonight and in the past with Cas fans and although they should have stopped singing when it was clear it was more than serious, the content is not serious enough to warrant a fine. Otherwise it really WOULD open a can of worms.

My question to you, would be, have you heard worse on the terraces? Because, trust me, I have. Like I said in my previous post. There were some embarrassing comments made by the Cas fans and I am fast losing my patience with the minority who WILL cost the club fines if they continue on.

no and from what you write normally I would suggest you are the kind that wouldnt wish that. the point is after he was down for nearly a minute the chant occured. had it been instand or nearly instant no one would bat an eyelid, the fact it took so long is the sticking point. Bad choice and there were a lot of ed of people around us and even people who hate leeds (hull kr fans and saints fans) have raised an issue over what they heard

Get well soon fella, that looks like surgery and a season ender, not good. Hope JP is back though, even for a Wire i wouldn't want him to miss a big day out in Wembley.

Oh, yes, don't get me wrong the timing is the issue and perhaps to an extent the seriousness of the injury has affected your view. However, had it been a normal tackle and the player got up, made a full recovery and it had been sang, would you hold the same point of view? Probably not.

Like I said, I've heard worse and probably will continue to do so. The question is now, are people becoming too petty? You're going to have start penalising every club for every player directed chant they come out with.

ive seen people call lack people w0gs and asian people c00ns. ive seen it and if i saw it tomorrow i'd still be just as shocked and disgusted as i was at that moment in time (im sorry for those vile words, but one instance was my uncle who was targeted so i feel vilified to use the comment). the fact is you dont have to see the worst before, its what happened now. still way of the mark tonight and bang out of order

I concur. However, it does matter. Because if you've heard worse in the past that has gone unpenalised and you will probably hear worse in the future go unpenalised, why should this be made an example of?

no im sorry, i saw the picture posted when i got home, i was as angry about it at the moment in time when we werent sure of the full extent in the ground. the guy was on the floor hardly moving for nearly a minute. me personaly, even if it was lee briers i'd still be worried for the lad if he stays down as we know rugby league lads dont stay down for no reason. please stop making excuses, you may not have been one of them but the fans that did are nothing more than pathetic cretins

I'm not making excuses, just stating how things could have changed your view. I can understand your concern: really I can and I'm certainly not negating the fact that timing and perhaps content was wrong.

I was just as worried to be honest. Everytime I see a player go down my mind goes back to Westerman in the Saints game, last year was it?

Your own players were joining in with it and laughing their s off.

We said, (as a joke) "if you hate Keith senior clap your hands" and who joined in? Ryan Hall of all people. What a cretin that guy is! Scum of rugby league!

Missed out 4 pages of reading so not sure what has been said but yes, completely fair tackle and no-one can have any complaints about it. Wish it wasn't done in last minute of game tho when the game was lost!

It's a blokes game at the end of the day and you have to accept that these things happen, and the players def do too. Gutted that the lad will miss his chance of playing at Wembley. Next year tho...

I hope Burgess is okay and doesn't miss wembley,from a wires fan. Is it official yet that his injuries are so bad he will miss the final? Re: banter and senior in particular. Leeds fans have a "we love you senior" chant. At the game earlier in the season at the HJ,a few of us wire fans sang to him. "We love you senior,because you're old and poo,we love you senior,because we score past you..........." a few minutes later the sod went under the sticks from halfway. That's "banter" I suppose! Cas fans? Never have been and never will be my cup of tea. Mostly hostile,argumentative and aggressive,and it seems they have learned absolutely nothing after being fined for the chants at Garreth Thomas earlier in the season.

While I wholeheartedly agree with what you are saying, unfortuately at times Leeds "fans" have failed to cover themselves in glory in this respect. The Walker injury is an example of when things are as they should be. When Eastmond went down at headingley this year with what looked like a pretty serious shoulder injury there was quite a bit of anti Saints chanting in the delay. I remember being seething about it at the time as it gives our club a bad name. I guess all teams have idiots.

On reflection - I'm still not sure that tackle should be legal. I accept that might be a reaction to the injury but is that a bad thing? Surely we should be trying to limit serious injuries as much as possible. I'm not buying that the same injury occurs if the young lad has a little think about tackling him before the contact instead of just running into him. All those people who say they don't want to take big hits out of the game - you can still still deliver massive hits while wrapping your arms around the player.

My final concern is with the player, who must have felt the contact and known it was fairly serious, especially when Burgess was lying still on the floor, yet still proceeded to jump around like an idiot.
A) He looked a for celebrating like that when his team had been battered
B) He knew he'd hit him hard with his head, he knew he was lying still and motionless
Completely unecessary reaction

100%

There was nothing illegal in the tackle, Yes it was reckless, But it was within the laws of the game, And there will be no punishment to the player

As for the chants, There was nothing wrong AT ALL. Some fans need to get a grip, Its the first thing Cas had to cheer all night, And every single fan who chanted light heartedly while Luke was treated to, Applauded him off, And i know, As i checked that they did

Nobody wants to see a player badly injured, but every RL fan wants to see your players KO someone, Just not cause serious injury

Looks like he is a mess, and wont play at Wembley, Which is a massive shame, But he will come back bigger and better, And count this as one of those RL injuries,

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Its the unpalatable side of the Big Daft Lads syndrome, you'll see the same behaviour in every town centre after throwing out time every weekend.