Is he still here ?

Yeah, he’s not turning this around, he might stay for the rest of the season, but he can’t possibly be here next year. The whole back room staff needs to be replaced with hardened professionals who want to win above everything else.

Super League
57 games
30 wins
27 Losses

Soon to have more losses than wins.

I've said it before but what the hell do they do all week in training? They can't pass, catch,kick. No heart or spirit. X man of Steel obviously a one season wonder and coach way out of his depth. What mess our club is in.

You can't carry on like this surely?

Nah Croft is a quality player playing in a poor team.

With the resources and facilities available at Leeds you should be miles better than this.

"The myth" is proving to be exactly that.

We can't four of our wins have been against teams below us and the two wins were against Salford and Catalan at home.Saints already three wins against us one being the cup at home.Three hammerings away from Warrington Catalans and Saints.There is no improvement what so ever infact we are in decline.The next four games are all winnable but as soon as we come up against a good side will be back to square one.I just cant see how Smith can keep his the job now.

Why are we so poor though? We definitely have some very average players but we also have some very good ones who are playing terribly. It feels like the coach has lost a chunk of the squad. If that's happened then his situation is untenable regardless of what anybody thinks.

If he stays then results against Hull and Cas in the next couple of weeks will paper over the cracks. We haven't beaten anyone aside from the terrible trio since March, and that was Leigh, who are now playing better than when we narrowly beat them. We are 'only' 6 points from the top of the league but the gap between us and the top on the field is as big as it was in the worst of the Agar years.

Playing in "a poorly coached team"

Either way, to say Croft is a one season wonder is daft. Hed walk into most if not all SL cubs and a fair few in the NRL

I 100% agree if he’s lost the players especially the senior members he’s done for, theres no coming back from that.

If we play as bad as we did tonight we will not beat either cas or hull

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I agree.

He probably wishes he was back at Salford,at least they played to their potential under a very good coach.

I hope Cas thrash us.

Burn it to the ground.

I doubt Cas will beat us.When did Hull last score 4 tries.

Sadly, there’ll be a few players looking to get out of their contracts.

Yeah yeah yeah they'll be banging on Hetheringtons office door this morning absolutely demanding to have their own contracts terminated so they can join another side. Yeah yeah. So bad. How could we. Yeah yeah yeah. It's so terrible. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, they'll all want out immediately. Yeah

Croft wouldn't get in 90% of the NRL sides - he looked a good player in a side that played to his strength. He should be having more impact in the games than he does

Isn’t he the leading try assist charts in the league?

Any running/creative half back is going to struggle when your team is coughing up possession and more importantly field position like we are doing.

Theres a bit of a shortage of half backs in the NRL (hence dodd getting a gig and even Sezer) he would get in most teams.

Your point about the team's inability to carry out basic skills is valid but he could show more and stand up to be counted. He hides in games.

If he had a guaranteed spot in the NRL he would be there - he is playing in SL like the rest of those coming over because they can't get a gig in the NRL. Sezer has cruised every since he came here both at the Giants and at Leeds. He was a good half when he was at the Raiders - a far better player than Croft has ever been. Are you suggesting Croft is a better player than Dodd?

Peter Wallace Penrith assistant, highly regarded? This is the type of coach we should be looking at, proven NRL assistant ready to step up. We need someone who can maximise the potential of the squad and get back to basics tried and tested game plans.

Funnily enough, a couple of weeks ago I was looking at all the NRL assistants and Wallace was the one that stood out to me too.

Yes Croft is a better player than Dodd who i think is highly overrated

Put Dodd in our side and he would look like Frawley.

I get people are down on the club at the moment but let’s not start bagging the actual quality players we have got.

No way are Sezer or Dodd better than Croft.
The problem with Croft is that he's gone to the wrong club.