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| Quote ="tvoc"My comments on this thread query the recent effectiveness of the Academy structures in place at the club rather than saying anything about a player I know little about at this point.'" So, you're dis-satisfied with the 1st team squad and the Academy structures...
Imagine how dis-satisfied if you supported a team that hadn't won 3 championships in 5 seasons (with a shout for an unprecedented 3rd in a row) with man of the match in all three of those Championship finals coming from the clubs Academy.
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| If you take a 'helicopter' view (dreadful business jargon I'm afraid )of Leeds' recruitment it's really hard to fault given actual results.
I don't know much about the Academy structure, but I'd bet that having had the lads come through that form the spine of the team, its very unlikely that the club decided to not try as hard to develop more quality youngsters. More likely is simply that for whatever reason the quality of players coming through simply isn't there or the scouting not as good or simply more competition from other clubs for the best juniors.
Given that, and the fact that Bluey obviously wants a bigger squad, the recruitment of these younger players is really good work IMO - and plenty of evidence of Leeds getting in early for next year.
I suspect they'll do the right thing by Eastwood in terms of letting him decide if he wants to play for Leeds (he finds out about his visa mid August), but I'd be shocked if they didn't have other irons in the fire if they really believe they need him or someone similar.
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| Mixed bag this strategy for mine,
Dissapointing we haven't got the lads in the academy system, but also pretty understandable,
Ambler, pitts and amour are all young forwards and over the next 3/4 years while thses guys mature we will likely lose peacock, kylie, Ali, kirke, along with losing ellis last year and him being replaced by ablett, so we do and will have a lot is space in the pack for any academy prospects to come through
The issue from my point of view is whilst I'm sure these lads could do a job in time, and I'm sure that they could replace kirke and kylie, are any of them going to get close to peacock or Ali?
It's the right way to go, and I'm happy we are giving these guys a shot rather than a winterstein, korkidas, lovegrove, fisher type player
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| Quote ="tvoc"You see, finally, even the esteemed CEO can acknowledge the true pack situation this season.'"
Gary Hetherington wrote: "Bringing in quality young players will boost our squad. There's no doubt we have been running light, particularly with our forward options this year."
Indeed. A point most forward looking posters on here have already noted Gawwy!
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| Quote ="G1"So, you're dis-satisfied with the 1st team squad and the Academy structures...'"
Shouldn't you be asking the CEO who stated as much last night and has been actively recruiting work-in-progress future potential players to plug the gaps.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Shouldn't you be asking the CEO who stated as much last night and has been actively recruiting work-in-progress future potential players to plug the gaps.'" Think we've been there before on this one, with the Eastwood position rightly or wrongly dictating whether we coud recruit this year without affecting the overall salary cap for next year.
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| Quote ="finglas"Think we've been there before on this one, with the Eastwood position rightly or wrongly dictating whether we coud recruit this year without affecting the overall salary cap for next year.'"
The moment Eastwood was refused a UK employment Visa was the moment Leeds needed to end the deal on the grounds of his non availability (something which must have been covered in the contract) to avoid any such effect occurring.
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| Quote ="tvoc"The moment Eastwood was refused a UK employment Visa was the moment Leeds needed to end the deal on the grounds of his non availability (something which must have been covered in the contract) to avoid any such effect occurring.'" I'd expect that the contract also had a "subject to appeal" clause in there.
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| Quote ="finglas"I'd expect that the contract also had a "subject to appeal" clause in there.'"
Bradford were able to cancel Toupou's contract due to his inability to train with his teammates.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Bradford were able to cancel Toupou's contract due to his inability to train with his teammates.'"
But that's Bradford and that was on medical grounds as per his contract, which I understand tupou challenged and lost.
Anyway speaking of Bradford, GH has a high moral standing on contracts and players/clubs should renege on them. There may be a solicitor with a sports background only too willing to take on the case on behalf of a disgruntled player.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Bradford were able to cancel Toupou's contract due to his inability to train with his teammates.'"
TVOC does that included all of the bulls teammates's inability to train with each other
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| Quote ="finglas"Anyway speaking of Bradford, GH has a high moral standing on contracts and players/clubs should renege on them.'"
He certainly as.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"He certainly as.
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You forgot Ryan Sheridan and Darren Fleary I think.
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| Could do a lot worse than Justin Hodges.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"but there tends to be abit of a holier-than-thou attitude with respect to other clubs' youth development, when over time I'd say Sts for example have been at least as good.'"
I suspect some of that attitude may come from seeing other clubs sporting a healthy contingent of young players produced through the Leeds Academy system. While junior development by Leeds may not have produced half a dozen players a year for their own first team, it's done a decent job of churning out a steady stream of SL quality players who have moved on having not quite cracked it at Leeds.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Shouldn't you be asking the CEO who stated as much last night and has been actively recruiting work-in-progress future potential players to plug the gaps.'" Asking him what?
Quote Bradford were able to cancel Toupou's contract due to his inability to train with his teammates.'" No they weren't.
They were able to give him 6 months notice as per the clause in the RFl's standard contract. He challenged the decision to give him notice. They reached an agreement to allow him to leave before his 6 months notice expired to take up employment elsewhere.
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| Its interesting that of the Leeds-developed players at other clubs, there aren't many (any?) that you'd be desperate to have back.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Its interesting that of the Leeds-developed players at other clubs, there aren't many (any?) that you'd be desperate to have back.'"
That's because we only keep the very best.
But that doesn't mean the ones we let go aren't good enough for super league, with lesser teams....like hull fc for example.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Its interesting that of the Leeds-developed players at other clubs, there aren't many (any?) that you'd be desperate to have back.'"
If Donald was leaving Id have without doubt took Fox back.
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| Quote ="J.I.M"That's because we only keep the very best.
But that doesn't mean the ones we let go aren't good enough for super league, with lesser teams....like hull fc for example.'" Morley, carvell and fox would be shoe-ins in our current squad!!
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| Morley's slightly different from the other two. Possibly agree with respect to Carvell, but are you sure about Fox? Would he replace Donald? In any event, if a player hasn't even played first team for Leeds I'm not sure we can claim much.
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"Ewan Dowes?'" A very underated prop!!
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