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| Quote ="rhinoms"icon_eek.gif
That's a bit much mate.
He made a couple of mistakes but has improved his game no end imo and he proved that at old trafford.'"
I see Hall in the forwards in a season or two. Big lad for a winger. Maybe he will move infield when Broughton is ready?
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| Bailey played well last night and I am so glad he is okay.
The disgusting behaviour of a small minority of hull kr fans who were shouting 'bailey is leaving in a coffin' was appauling and shocking !
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| Ryan Hall - Last night wasn't the first time he's had a howler with his hands, Catalans away last season anyone? Rain is no excuse, it certainly wasn't wet that night in France. The week after in the CC semi at Huddersfield he was very good though. That's often what you get with young players. Even though he had a mare he still showed up and put the effort in but it just wasn't happening for him..... that's all. (Donald will also be disappointed with some of his finishing this season so far.)
He is in the side currently because he is one of the best seven backs the club has available for selection. That will likely as not still be the case next week also.
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| hall is great going forward but when the ball was kicked behind him he had the turning circle of an oil tanker.looked very cumbersome in that respect
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| Doesnt take long for Leeds fans to get on a players back does it.
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| Shame afew Hull fans had to come out with a below the belt comment about Bailey last night, pleased we grinded out the win in the end and hope Baileys not too bad.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Ryan Hall - Last night wasn't the first time he's had a howler with his hands, Catalans away last season anyone? Rain is no excuse, it certainly wasn't wet that night in France. The week after in the CC semi at Huddersfield he was very good though. That's often what you get with young players. Even though he had a mare he still showed up and put the effort in but it just wasn't happening for him..... that's all. (Donald will also be disappointed with some of his finishing this season so far.)
He is in the side currently because he is one of the best seven backs the club has available for selection. That will likely as not still be the case next week also.'"
and if my memory serves ( which is far from certain these days) hasnt he usually followed up a "mare" of a game with a top performance the following week....
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| Quote ="tad rhino"hall is great going forward but when the ball was kicked behind him he had the turning circle of an oil tanker.looked very cumbersome in that respect'"
That (highlighted by Craven Park's super-sized in-goal areas), his lack of gas and engine all mark him out as a young bloke who has lucked his way into a single digit squad number. That's OK, wing isn't a high priority position in the team and someone has to fill out the numbers. He puts the effort in and is very willing but he just isn't blessed with that star quality.
Not a reaction to last night's performance, just a consistently held opinion.
Not seeking to knock him but I don't see him as a starting 1-7 Leeds player when the squad is up to strength and when it isn't he'll be an adequate stop-gap.
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| Quote ="King Monkey"Doesnt take long for Leeds fans to get on a players back does it.'"
Expressing an opinion that you've held for some time about a player on a message board is hardly getting on his back. Maybe we should just post 'Sinny is God' for 30 pages?
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| So Hall dropped the ball a few times - had a bad game, but he did pop up in the right place for his try. He's young and fairly inexperienced, he's bound to make mistakes
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| Quote ="(Broken) Time Bandit"Expressing an opinion that you've held for some time about a player on a message board is hardly getting on his back. '"
So you are permananently on his back then.
At least you're consistent.
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| Hall is usually solid and unspectacular. Last night he had abit of a mare, but he's also had some excellent games.
Donald is playing exactly like he did in his 1st season at the moment, IMHO it's fairly clear that he's a much, much better player on the left.
He's more comfortable scooting from the left, receiving the ball from his right (last season he would have grounded that no-try, IMO), finishing in the left hand corner (despite carrying the ball in his right hand). Also playing outside Keith doesn't do your game much harm.
Not knocking Donald here by the way, just don't think he hits the heights on the right hand side.
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| Quote ="Sarahgrhino"Bailey played well last night and I am so glad he is okay.
The disgusting behaviour of a small minority of hull kr fans who were shouting 'bailey is leaving in a coffin' was appauling and shocking !
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You always get the minority don't you the majority in the stadium clapped him off !
Ablett you failed to mention the close line he gave Webster in the first half discilpinary matter for me .
Webster's try was a definite the ball did not change direction I have watched it many times in slo mo .
A different outcome I think but the top teams seem to be getting all the decisions lately.
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| Quote ="cofr_rockin_robin"You always get the minority don't you the majority in the stadium clapped him off !
Ablett you failed to mention the close line he gave Webster in the first half discilpinary matter for me .
Webster's try was a definite the ball did not change direction I have watched it many times in slo mo .
A different outcome I think but the top teams seem to be getting all the decisions lately.'"
If that's the case donalds try would of stood and the penalty count would of been 15-15 and the score wouldn't of been so close as we'd of won comfortably but then again we did get all the decisions
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| Quote ="cofr_rockin_robin"Webster's try was a definite the ball did not change direction I have watched it many times in slo mo .'"
It all depended which speed you ran the slow mo at. The slower it got the harder it was to see.
Definate knock on for mine though.
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| Quote ="tvoc"It all depended which speed you ran the slow mo at. The slower it got the harder it was to see.
Definate knock on for mine though.'"
Totally agree the ball undoubtably changed direction due to a touch from Websters hand. Unfortunate for KR but a correct decision that the unbiased fan cannot bleat about
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| Quote ="rumpelstiltskin"He certainly had a howler, and would also have been held to account if Webster's try had stood, but I'm not going to bin him over one poor game.
It's a very big ask to play in Super League, the potential is there, but for me I'll leave it to the end of the season to see how he develops.
He's definitely going to be on the receiving end of a few high bombs next Sunday
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Even good wingers have bad games - Brian Carney did. When Manu Vatuvei first started he stuggled with a log of high balls. In fact he got a rep of not been able to catch. Last season this rep stuck with him even though he was catching balls and then running at players. He was 'so bad' he got an end of season NRL award...best winger I think?
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| Quote ="Matt23"Hall is usually solid and unspectacular. Last night he had abit of a mare, but he's also had some excellent games.
Donald is playing exactly like he did in his 1st season at the moment, IMHO it's fairly clear that he's a much, much better player on the left.
He's more comfortable scooting from the left, receiving the ball from his right (last season he would have grounded that no-try, IMO), finishing in the left hand corner (despite carrying the ball in his right hand). Also playing outside Keith doesn't do your game much harm.
Not knocking Donald here by the way, just don't think he hits the heights on the right hand side.'"
Totally agree..!! Why have we broken up a very succesful partnership on the left ?? It's not as though Hall didn't play on the right wing last season...He DID ???!!!
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| Quote ="johnholmesfan"Totally agree..!! Why have we broken up a very succesful partnership on the left ?? It's not as though Hall didn't play on the right wing last season...He DID ???!!!'"
I think it's to give the other teams a bit of hope.
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| Quote ="Matt23"Hall is usually solid and unspectacular. Last night he had abit of a mare, but he's also had some excellent games.
Donald is playing exactly like he did in his 1st season at the moment, IMHO it's fairly clear that he's a much, much better player on the left.
He's more comfortable scooting from the left, receiving the ball from his right (last season he would have grounded that no-try, IMO), finishing in the left hand corner (despite carrying the ball in his right hand). Also playing outside Keith doesn't do your game much harm.
Not knocking Donald here by the way, just don't think he hits the heights on the right hand side.'" I agree I would also move Donald to the left.
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| The RHS was a real problem area for us last year. Bluey has recognised this. If we mute a little bit of attacking ability to shore up this side then I Can live with that.
Two tries in 3 games (both from kicks) means something is working.
The attacking fluidity (is that a word or I have just done a Stevo?) will come.
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| Quote ="G1"The RHS was a real problem area for us last year. Bluey has recognised this. If we mute a little bit of attacking ability to shore up this side then I Can live with that.
Two tries in 3 games (both from kicks) means something is working.
The attacking fluidity (is that a word or I have just done a Stevo?) will come.'" I agree and I can live with that, but I don't believe we will see the best of Donald (in an attacking sense) whilst he is on the right.
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| Quote ="Matt23"I agree and I can live with that, but I don't believe we will see the best of Donald (in an attacking sense) whilst he is on the right.'"
Not sure I buy that arguement. Some centres amy struggle either left or right, as their passing may be weaker that way, but if someone on the wing can't catch very well from one side you do have to wonder how they got to the level they are at.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Not sure I buy that arguement. Some centres amy struggle either left or right, as their passing may be weaker that way, but if someone on the wing can't catch very well from one side you do have to wonder how they got to the level they are at.'"
The difference is though that most of our attacking comes down the left rather than the right. So its quite obvious that Donald is not going to be as effective on the right as he is on the left.
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| Quote ="DISA"The difference is though that most of our attacking comes down the left rather than the right. So its quite obvious that Donald is not going to be as effective on the right as he is on the left.'"
Depends how you look at it. Donald can be just as effective when utilised, but the team may be less effective
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