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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Other than the obvious Walters & Ormanroyd who does he offer more than?
Not good enough KR but good enough for us? Not imo.'"
Depends who's out injured. A few likely candidates to add to those you've mentioned IMO
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| Also see Cas signing another Rhino in Clarkson.
They didn`t do too bad with some of our other players so maybe Donaldson might come good for us.
I think that he will offer more than Walters, Ormandroyd, Mullalley, JJB and at this stage probably more than some of our younger players who will not be able to play every week.
With a squad it gives us the option of resting players and add cover for injuries too.
It is not an ideal situation we are in but we are where we are and have to make the best of what we have to play with.
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| Really disappointed with this signing. He's not good enough for Leeds. Hope he doesn't hinder the progress of Cam Smith and Owen Trout.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Really disappointed with this signing. He's not good enough for Leeds. Hope he doesn't hinder the progress of Cam Smith and Owen Trout.'"
Agree pal. Nothing against the lad but a small second-row who averages 13-14 games a year as either injured or not good enough for Hull kr is underwhelming
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| Quote ="taxi4stevesmith"Agree pal. Nothing against the lad but a small second-row who averages 13-14 games a year as either injured or not good enough for Hull kr is underwhelming'"
He's a loose forward.
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| Quote ="Nothus"He's a loose forward.'"
oh good, we dont have enough of those
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| Quote ="Nothus"He's a loose forward.'"
He’s a second row
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| Quote ="Nothus"He's a loose forward.'"
Played most of his career as a SR either way he isnt good enough as a 13 either.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Really disappointed with this signing. He's not good enough for Leeds. Hope he doesn't hinder the progress of Cam Smith and Owen Trout.'"
X2 Marty.
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| smacks of desperation. hope he proves me wrong but not for me
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Other than the obvious Walters & Ormanroyd who does he offer more than?
Not good enough KR but good enough for us? Not imo.'"
Walters and Ormandroyd are the players I had in mind. Depending on form, he *might* offer more than the likes of Ferres and JJB, but that might be stretching the point. He probably offers more than some of the younger players as a safe professional, but I'd be wary of him blocking their development.
I don't think as fans we have enough information at our disposal about the club's salary cap space and other players that are realistically available at this stage of the pre-season to write off this signing as a bad one before Donaldson has played in a competitive match for Leeds.
I can see there is a reasonable chance of this move not working out, in which case Leeds aren't saddled with anyone beyond this season. There's also a chance that he'll thrive in the new setup at Leeds, so I'd rather not bin him just yet and give him a chance to show us what he can do in the Leeds jersey.
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| We've signed a hard working player with a great attitude. Both things were missing in spades last year.
Is he the best back rower in the comp? No. Is he a good squad player who will not let us down if/when he plays? Almost certainly.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"We've signed a hard working player with a great attitude. Both things were missing in spades last year.
Is he the best back rower in the comp? No. Is he a good squad player who will not let us down if/when he plays? Almost certainly.'"
That's how I see it too. I think there is other players to moan about more if you go down that route.
To be fair though, I am assuming the complaints are not about the player himself, but more about usuage of cap space and where it was needed.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"That's how I see it too. I think there is other players to moan about more if you go down that route.
To be fair though, I am assuming the complaints are not about the player himself, but more about usuage of cap space and where it was needed.'"
Can't be paying him that much given he's admitted no other deals were on the table.
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| People just need to realise this isn't a computer game where you go out a pick up all the best players.
We aren't going to lose anything here on a 1 year contract and who knows, with JJB, Ferres and Walters off contract next year he may prove his worth and stay. Or if he is gash he will leave.
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| Quote ="Fallon"People just need to realise this isn't a computer game where you go out a pick up all the best players.
We aren't going to lose anything here on a 1 year contract and who knows, with JJB, Ferres and Walters off contract next year he may prove his worth and stay. Or if he is gash he will leave.'"
Agree with this
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| Quote ="Fallon"People just need to realise this isn't a computer game where you go out a pick up all the best players.
We aren't going to lose anything here on a 1 year contract and who knows, with JJB, Ferres and Walters off contract next year he may prove his worth and stay. Or if he is gash he will leave.'"
What a load if patronising guff.
Not one poster has suggested anything like what you've posted.
Better SC management & we wouldnt be scraping around for HKR rejects that's not a computer game either that's pre planning & having the foresight to look ahead when rebuilding a squad top heavy with has beens & never will bes.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"What a load if patronising guff.
Not one poster has suggested anything like what you've posted.
Better SC management & we wouldnt be scraping around for HKR rejects that's not a computer game either that's pre planning & having the foresight to look ahead when rebuilding a squad top heavy with has beens & never will bes.'"
It's the same rubbish from you.
Get over decisions that have gone and look at what a great off season we have had recruitment wise. All you do is whinge about stuff nobody can change. It's boring.
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| Quote ="Fallon"People just need to realise this isn't a computer game where you go out a pick up all the best players.
We aren't going to lose anything here on a 1 year contract and who knows, with JJB, Ferres and Walters off contract next year he may prove his worth and stay. Or if he is gash he will leave.'"
Think we all understand in the salary cap era but for me personally I would just rather see the young lads given a go instead of some no use 9th choice back rower. We've some excellent kids let's use them rather than players like Donaldson.
Come on he's just not good enough for Leeds. I would much rather see lads like Trout, Martin, McConnell, Muizz etc given a go if we go so low on the depth chart.
Yes Donaldson is a worker, yes he will tackle but he will also offer nothing in attack.
Give the kids a go!
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| I can get what you are saying but clearly Sinfield sees the likes of Thompson and now Donaldson as players who can do a job a certain way that fits us under the cap and gives some cover when required.
Thompson didn`t make it but Donaldson did.
On the note of giving the kids a chance.
Yes I agree but not sure they can do it for a full season or that they are ready just yet to even try and do it for a full season.
Who knows Donaldson might not get much game time anyway but he must have something the kids don`t have otherwise Sinfield would not have recruited him.
Then again who is to say Sinfield knows what he`s on about
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Think we all understand in the salary cap era but for me personally I would just rather see the young lads given a go instead of some no use 9th choice back rower. We've some excellent kids let's use them rather than players like Donaldson.
Come on he's just not good enough for Leeds. I would much rather see lads like Trout, Martin, McConnell, Muizz etc given a go if we go so low on the depth chart.
Yes Donaldson is a worker, yes he will tackle but he will also offer nothing in attack.
Give the kids a go!'"
Don't get me wrong, I'm not pro Donaldson, I wouldn't have signed him. But then I have no coaching credentials or experience so I have no idea what I'm talking about.
If the coaching staff think he is worth a year then I'm ok with that. The only youth player he will really impact is Cam Smith who is is coming through in his position. But then it's only a year contract and if Smith is half decent he will get picked ahead of him anyway.
I just don't see how we lose on this one.
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| Quote ="Fallon"Don't get me wrong, I'm not pro Donaldson, I wouldn't have signed him. But then I have no coaching credentials or experience so I have no idea what I'm talking about.
If the coaching staff think he is worth a year then I'm ok with that. The only youth player he will really impact is Cam Smith who is is coming through in his position. But then it's only a year contract and if Smith is half decent he will get picked ahead of him anyway.
I just don't see how we lose on this one.'"
I don’t think Donaldson will have an impact on Smith. Just because you are labelled backrow, doesn’t mean you all play the same, or the same role. Both players are completely different, and certain parts of game one or the other don’t have in them. I think Donaldson will be more of a back up for Ferres, and in the main will be competing with JJB for a squad spot. I said after Boxing Day I don’t think you would have a seventeen with both in. The JJB role will be Donaldson, depending on injuries and form. And I don’t think Trout who is the other youngster, can play that role.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I don’t think Donaldson will have an impact on Smith. Just because you are labelled backrow, doesn’t mean you all play the same, or the same role. Both players are completely different, and certain parts of game one or the other don’t have in them. I think Donaldson will be more of a back up for Ferres, and in the main will be competing with JJB for a squad spot. I said after Boxing Day I don’t think you would have a seventeen with both in. The JJB role will be Donaldson, depending on injuries and form. And I don’t think Trout who is the other youngster, can play that role.'"
Fair point.
Just brings me back round to not seeing the issue with the signing.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I don’t think Donaldson will have an impact on Smith. Just because you are labelled backrow, doesn’t mean you all play the same, or the same role. Both players are completely different, and certain parts of game one or the other don’t have in them. I think Donaldson will be more of a back up for Ferres, and in the main will be competing with JJB for a squad spot. I said after Boxing Day I don’t think you would have a seventeen with both in. The JJB role will be Donaldson, depending on injuries and form. And I don’t think Trout who is the other youngster, can play that role.'"
Trout who did the full 80 when England beat the Aussie Schoolboys?
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