Quote ="tad rhino"isn't it above the knee? nowhere near the joints'" https://www.instagram.com/reel/CvJ8XtyA ... FlZA%3D%3D Have to make your own mind up on that.

Quote ="tad rhino"isn't it above the knee? nowhere near the joints'" https://www.instagram.com/reel/CvJ8XtyA ... FlZA%3D%3D Have to make your own mind up on that.

Indeed, had a quick look at the Saints red vee forum. Mass hysteria seems to be the order of the day.

Graham he hit him directly on the knee - very dangerous tackle. This is 16st bloke going at speed on to the knee joint. We used to go mad when Wigan used to pull these stunts.

I agree with the sentiment but potentially ending a player's career is not on. Those tackles were terrible.

No he didn't. Initial contact is above the knee and he tries to wrap arms around.
Unfortunate injury but nothing more

david, I haven't seen the tackle. I meant isn't the law that you tackle above knees

Thats if the player is stationary and you're coming in as 2nd/3rd man

I'm not really sure about the rules, but both tackles look wrong and dangerous, as the impact is with the shoulder and low on the side of the leg. Given the extent of the injuries I don't think we can write them off as just an accident - Wellens is right to the extent that if these sorts of things can be prevented they should be. A tackler wouldn't do this front on as they'd be likely to get a knee in the face. From the back there's likely be no issue as the knee would just bend. I just don't think you should be able to hit with the shoulder that low on the side of the leg that its even close to the knee, as if the foot is grounded the knee's going to be in all sorts.

The one was Paasi was like an NFL block to start with, just getting low and clattering his legs from the side but just in front of Paasi to stop his route, he then grabs the front knee, Holmes comes in on top and it gets horrible.

They both look just plain wrong and if not illegal they should be. The irony of the fact that Saints have sailed pretty close to the wind these last couple of years doesn't altar the validity of Wellens point. It's not only concussion that shortens carreers and impacts post career lives.

Wellens does have a point but reading the linked interview it does beg the question why he didn't raise it with the rfl after round 3 when he claims asiata made similar tackles. https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/23 ... ts-season/ It is a concern though. I remember breathing a sigh of relief when Tommy limped back into the fray following something similar (can't recall who we were playing; wasn't Leigh though)

Wellens does have a point but reading the linked interview it does beg the question why he didn't raise it with the rfl after round 3 when he claims asiata made similar tackles. https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/23 ... ts-season/ It is a concern though. I remember breathing a sigh of relief when Tommy limped back into the fray following something similar (can't recall who we were playing; wasn't Leigh though)

Seems Olpherts calf is still giving him some problems!!
The squad in full is:
1 Richie Myler
2 David Fusitu'a
4 Nene Macdonald
5 Ash Handley
6 Blake Austin
7 Aidan Sezer
8 Mikolaj Oledzki
11 James Bentley
12 Rhyse Martin
13 Cameron Smith
14 Jarrod O’Connor
15 Sam Lisone
17 Justin Sangare
18 Tom Holroyd
19 James McDonnell
21 Luke Hooley
22 Sam Walters
24 Luis Roberts
25 James Donaldson
26 Corey Johnson
31 Leon Ruan

Some good news then

Either that or Smith has realised he`s not up to it.
Did we get him on a 1 year deal?

Unfortunately not

Come on you Rhinos, let's have Wellens crying again

Olphats has another two years after this!!

No he doesn't, but feel free to be mad about something you made up

I thought he got 3 years too, but hopefully 2

I thought and now really hope it was 2.

Are we 100% sure Olpherts was a Smith signing?

why wouldn't it have been? he is the coach, he gets the final say

Erm it might have been agreed before he arrived.

When it’s announced and when it was agreed are not necessarily the same thing.

Agree with Chris on this, I think it was before smith

Hopefully by the end of next season one of Lumb/Simpson/Tchamambe are ready to start playing a few games and take the place of 3rd winger