Think our outside bet of a grand final appearance is evaporating now……

True but that’s a long contract and given the injuries it’s unlikely any other team will offer him more coin for 3 years.

Plus there is some real potential in there if he can stay fit which is why we gave him such a long contract.

He is still very young for a prop and I just hope he can show his quality in future with Hunwicks and Smith guiding him.

Fingers crossed.

Potentials one thing, but his record is atrocious at best…….
Someone with half the potential , who’s played more games would have been more useful….

So what would you do, terminate his contract and pay him off? The only sane option is to let his injury heal, get him ready for 2023 and go again, which is what will happen. He has real talent, that's why people get frustrated. Talent is at premium in SL, and he's still young enough to realise his.

Yes remember it well but JJB injuries IIRC weren’t as bad as Holdroyds

JJB broke his leg/legs didn't he? He certainly had a lot of injuries early in his career, but at some point started to become pretty durable for a forward. We've just got to hope Holroyd does the same.

When JJB had his injuries he was around 18 years old and presumably on a small contract and not 22 on a decent package. Bad luck, brittle, flaky call it what you like he is a luxury in a salary cap sport so next year has to be last chance..I hope he proves us wrong and has an outstanding season!

How bad is this injury? He's out for the season, but in reality that's a handful of weeks. I was really looking forward to seeing him play and I'm really gutted. That said - if he approaches 2023 fully fit and desperate to make his mark, he could do great things.

Hardaker
Tindall Martin Sutcliffe Handley
Myler Sezer
Oledzki O’Connor Prior
Gannon Bentley
Austin

Dwyer Mustapha Tetevano Smith/Walters

That’s what I’d like to see to be fair

No, play players as close to their preferred positions as possible and get sezer and Austin playing in the halves as if we're going to do anything in the play offs they're going to need time together. Myler FB hardaker centre Martin 2nd row.

There's a Morecambe & Wise gag in there. It's all the right players but not necessarily in the right order.

I’ll give you that sunshine

Think that`s where I`m coming from Seth.
Myler
Tindall Hardaker Sutcliffe Handley
Austin Sezer
Oledzki O’Connor Prior
Gannon Martin
Tetavano

Dwyer Mustapha Walters Smith/Johnson

33. Zak Hardaker
29. Liam Tindall
6. Blake Austin
4. Liam Sutcliffe

5. Ash Handley 

7. Aidan Sezer
16. Richie Myler

8. Mikolaj Oledzki
14. Brad Dwyer

10. Matt Prior

11. James Bentley or 21. Morgan Gannon
12. Rhyse Martin
17. Cameron Smith or 24. Jarrod O’Connor


13. Zane Tetevano

22. Sam Walters

24. Jarrod O’Connor or 26. Corey Johnson
27. Muizz Mustapha

sounds like a couple of young lads making their debuts off the bench for Warrington, so hopefully we should have enough on the field to do the job

That’s what I’d go with

Leeds by 20 points

Cannot take any side for granted, but surely this will be a breeze, cannot see past an easy win 42-16

I'm not so confident. Warrington have got to start performing better at some point.

Normally I’d agree, but it feels like warrington have been saying that every week and have barely seemed to improve.

Yeh I'm not so confident either.
Newman, Fusitua and Leeming are big misses for us.
And if Bentley and Smith don't make it, it's closer than many think.
I think we'll edge it, but not by much.

I am not overly confident either. A Leeds win and a Salford loss this weekend though, would take us one win away from the play offs.

I think the key is to score first. Warrington are psychologically weak, much like we were early in the season.

Not overconfident either. In Dufty they have a player who can win games out of nothing. He'll take some watching. Can also see us being without Hardaker, Bentley, and Smith. Could be very close. Starting well will be important.

Dufty is a decent player but he doesn’t change a rubbish Warrington side into a good one, he’s nothing to fear and neither are Warrington

Don't think I've come across such a bullish attitude since reading a pre grand final interview with Jon Wilkin, c2009