Good for you if you stick it out through thick and thin. Meanwhile in the real world there are several thousand supporters already mia, and no doubt several k more on the brink.

I remember when 10k was considered a huge crowd. Keeping existing supporters is shedloads easier than getting new ones. Those aren't just floaters but people with real alternatives as to how to spend their money. I imagine a lot would put up with a bit of mid-table mediocrity, but absolute garbage? That's another thing entirely.

Great post

The new development was £5 million from the club the £38 million rest on tick from Leeds council backed by legal and general pension fund. Club and cricket to pay rent for new facilities

Now you're starting to think like warrington

Well said. Easiest thing going is supporting a winning team bit that isn't being a fan.

Weve been spoilt rotten last 15 years now we need to rebuild and support the club through it. If you cant be there through this tough period don't be there when were winning again in a few years time.

Good to see "superfan" syndrome alive and well!

Most of us commented when we were winning let's just enjoy this because it wont last forever

We did & plenty of us also remember the dark days of the 80's & the big spending Laughton era but saying all that plenty of our current situation is self inflicted when we had the blueprints to at the very least remain challengers.

Be honest tho you look back on the Robin Dewhirst era fondly???

Dark days indeed.

what was on these blueprints, have we lost them?

I said on the VT that I don't have a problem if Sinfield is shown the door if he can't turn things around. The club owes him and the rest of the Golden Generation nothing except admiration and respect for past glories. They were well paid and have multiple winners' rings to show for their efforts. The club does not owe them jobs for life, particularly at the expense of the current team.

I agree but when Sinfield has clearly been employed to turn round the rugby side of things over period of time, he should be given that time, unless something drastic happened like relegation.

A luxury he wasn't prepared to grant Furner, mind.

Gone quiet on the ne coach front

Or subject to Visa approval, and waiting for that.

McDermott ate them.

RL has progressed to card payments rather than brown envelopes?

Hope you're right.

From what I've been told tonight there is nobody in the pipeline for the coaching job and Agar is very much in with a decent run at it.

Well that's working out well isn't it? Zero from 2 so far.

To be fair he's really inherited a basket case, but if we keep getting beaten the pressure will be on to do something more than hope he can turn it around. If we lose to London can you see him being given many more games to sort things out?

I have nothing against agar but he's clearly a cheap option.

I don't understand why when we are constrained by the salary cap why we wouldn't go all out to get the best coach we can to turn this shambles around.

I think if we'd have been going for a short term appointment Kear would have been a better option. Not a great coach, but he'd at least be able to motivate the team. Agar hasn't raised the performances at all so far

Just watched the post match interview with Agar on the YEP site, and it's clear he's not in this for the long run. The sacking of Furner seems to have been down to an individual matter between him and Sinfield, which I suspect (but don't know) was about the relative strengths of the playing squad. To sack him, for what might well have been simply telling the truth, seems even more stupid now than it did then.

Not having a long term replacement lined up shows naivety on Sinfield's behalf, he's behaving like a dictator at the moment, and that's unlikely to get the best out of a punch of average players, with little confidence. We are in a hole.

We urgently need to find a coach and halfback who can between them steer us around the park and give us a kicking game, which in all honestly I don't think Leeds have ever had in my 40 or so years of watching us.We haven't needed it before because we could defend and had some brilliance in us which would always lead to points, but now without either of those things, it's mission critical for us.

I'm still not sure we've reached the bottom yet...

Something's obviously led to Furners sacking and it cant be just team results and performances ,but he must have had reassurances about being given time during the negotiations when they came for him. There must have been a Hell of a bust up between the coach and the DOR

Naivety beyond belief..I'm starting to lose faith in sinfield very quickly after this.