yep. souness wrote in his autobiography 3 or 4 senior players ruled the changing room and they sorted any issues out

I was thinking next season. I dont think Jimmy Lowes is the long term plan. Sinfield can then get on with being the director of rugby with a coach who has good credentials. I like JL dont get me wrong.

Don't believe everything you read from the Phil Could spin machine. The rumours have been there all year that Gus has been interfering in coaching and Griffin has been standing his ground so they've clashed - Gould is the General Manager and he has won the power battle.

Griffin has just given an outstanding and open interview on NRL360 where he gave a full breakdown of what happened.

Griffin set up the current junior develop systems at both Brisbane and Penrith- they both always had great junior numbers and teams, but weren't transitioning the juniors into NRL players. Both teams are now stacked out with superstars that have been developed internally - I think Griffin would be a fantastic appointment, who would really help Sinfield develop in his role and get this club back to producing top line talent through the junior systems. Both Penrith and Brisbane rely heavily on the juniors they produce, supplemented by a few high quality imports, that's exactly how we've been so successful.

I'd be going all out for Griffin.

Possibly. On the other hand we may have avoided the bottom 4 and been in a CC final. We will never know.

I think what we saw, and seen and heard since, it is a high possibility we do know.

What i have seen are performances and results that are no better than before BM was sacked.

And no worse. But what has been heard tells a more telling story.

No it doesn't. All that matters is what happens on the field. There has been zero improvement with the new coaching team.

Who cares what players etc are 'saying'. They come out with the same garbage every time we lose - working hard, focus on the next game, confident we can win blah blah blah. Frankly until things actually turn round where it counts, who cares what Sinfield is saying either?

9 times out 10 when a new coach is brought in you see a very fast bounce in performance. It may not last long, but you usually see something. Since Sinfield/Lowes took over we've won 1 game against by far the worst team in SL, competed against a mid table side and been hammered three times. There's no 'bounce' there, and frankly I'm past caring what players think, or whether they're happy little campers or not. All that matters is surviving this year and then rebuilding. If that means some players get upset sobeit.

Kevin Sinfield looks too miserable with the situation to boost moral.
Is there no way you can get Burrow back?

i would get him back playing for the middle 8's

Sky Sports have just said that Anthony Griffin will be Leeds Rhinos head coach in 2019 below Kevin Sinfield.

don't watch much NRL but done a great job. losing his job when he did was a shock mind. possibly sacked as they knew he was coming over? just asking

Great news - will help make the club a better set up from the ground up. Watch our juniors flourish over the next few years.



Nope, sacked because he clashed with Gus Gould as he wouldn't let Gould dictate how the team should play and be coached. They made a play for Ivan Cleary (partly coz he's good, but mainly so they'll keep his son who's off contract next year and has stated he wants to play for his dad) and it was gonna come out in the media, so binned Griffin off as they knew the storm that was coming. Plus if he won the comp this year, which is a real possibility, they'd look ridiculous then sacking him at year end.

A man with a point to prove then. Don't know owt about him but that's no bad thing.

cheers Ted

Could scupper Segeyaro's stated ambition to return to Leeds one day

+50 admiration points then.

If true, it's about as good an appointment as we could make. I wonder if he'd come over before the end of the season? www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-09/g ... n/10092126

If true, it's about as good an appointment as we could make. I wonder if he'd come over before the end of the season? www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-09/g ... n/10092126

Good move.don't know much about him but he must have some pedigree looking at how Penrith have been going and as others have said will have a point to prove and be hungry to do well. No baggage and no loyalty to anyone currently in the squad too which is a bonus as far as a clear out goes which is obviously needed.

The one thing people won't like is how he comes across in the media and interviews. He's not comfortable doing media work at all and comes across as awkward (even more than McD) and a bit dry, almost abrupt, but I pressume Sinfield will pick up this element and still be the face of the team.
If anyone watches his recent interview on NRL360 followinf his sacking where he gives his side of the story, you'll see that he's a thoroughly decent bloke who's stood by his principles and not bent over for Gould. His players love him - Gould has claimed he lost the dressing too., but this is already being proven to be wrong. The players he's fallen out with in the past have been idiots or loose off the field (Moylan, Segeyaro, Soward) - they all copped the treatment they deserved.
Hats off to GH on this one I reckon.

I don’t know much about him but he does sound like a good fit for the club as long as he’d be comfortable with the director of Rugby thing, but if he is uncomfortable with the nedia side of things, knowing he won’t have to desl with that (if sinfield does) then that might appeal to him. Phil Gould is an absolute knob so Griffins n not getting on with him is a tick in the box for me.

Griffin admitted himself that he stuffed up with Moylan, who was supposed to be the star at the Panthers for the next decade. I've no doubt he's good at some things, but just pretending that all the issues reported about him are spin or upset former players is as daft as believing its all true. Some of the issues reported at the Panthers were also spoken about at the Broncos. He's also literally talking nonsense about junior development. The 16 debutants under his watch were all in the Penrith junior system before he arrived there, and some of their best juniors started first team before he arrived.

All of that doesn't mean to say he couldn't do a really good job elsewhere or at Leeds, and if he was to be head coach from next season I'd desperately try to get him over now because we need all the help we can get. But nobody's perfect, including Griffin. What worries me to a degree is that some of the issues raised about him with respect to delegation and not listening were issues BM was supposed to have as well.

Hope this is true. Surely it'll be announced soon if so, need some news like this to announce season ticket prices for 2019

I wouldn't announce anything unless he were able to come over this season. Completely unfair on Lowes to do otherwise..

I'll overlook that if he also oversees 4 GF wins