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| Quote ="tvoc"Seem to recall him making his debut as a scrum-half for St Helens away at Wigan as a 16 year old - surprised Ian Millward escaped with just a caution for child abuse on that one.'"
I thought he was a hooker but I could be wrong
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| Wasn't Sam Burgess 17 when he got his debut at Bulls?
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| If he gets his chance I for one wish him all the success in what is hopefully a small stepping stone to a long and successful career at Leeds
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| Quote ="Jimbo_Returns"Wasn't Sam Burgess 17 when he got his debut at Bulls?'"
must have been he was 18 when he made his debut for GB and put that monster hit on Moi Moi.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Anyone remember the last 17 year old forward to come into top division RL and look physically ready for it? You're probably going back to the days of Sculthorpe and Farrell, maybe Nick Scruton more recently?
Thankfully clubs take a more long-term view when it comes to the physical development of young players these days, looking to build muscle mass more slowly onto bodies that are still developing.'"
It's case-by-case as to which young forwards are ready. Nobody could say Sam Burgess wasn't physically ready for open age rugby at 17. Craig Huby played a full season for Cas at 16, iirc.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"It's case-by-case as to which young forwards are ready. Nobody could say Sam Burgess wasn't physically ready for open age rugby at 17. Craig Huby played a full season for Cas at 16, iirc.'"
Take the point. Sam Burgess is a bit of a one-off but he still had suffered shoulder surgery on both shoulders before age 21.
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Quote ="Sal Paradise"I thought he was a hooker but I could be wrong'"
Not when he made his debut at 16, this small article appears to confirm he started out at scrum-half: news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 595010.stm
FWIW - I didn't agree with Millward pitching him in to the then fiercely contested derby away at Wigan. Nowadays in the comparitively powderpuff version SL has become I suspect it wouldn't be an issue at all.
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Not when he made his debut at 16, this small article appears to confirm he started out at scrum-half: news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 595010.stm
FWIW - I didn't agree with Millward pitching him in to the then fiercely contested derby away at Wigan. Nowadays in the comparitively powderpuff version SL has become I suspect it wouldn't be an issue at all.
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| Darryl Clark must have been young when he broke through at Cas.
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| Possibly at SO rather than LF but Sinfield was playing at 16.
at other clubs theres Tom Burgess at 18, Westerman 17, Clark had just turned 18 i think, Wasnt James Graham 17 on debut? I think Chris Hill was 18 too
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| Quote ="tvoc"Seem to recall him making his debut as a scrum-half for St Helens away at Wigan as a 16 year old - surprised Ian Millward escaped with just a caution for child abuse on that one.'"
In James Roby's first season (2004) Millward played him on the wing in a playoff game vs Wigan even though they had Ade Gardner on the bench.
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