What can a coach do having had so many injured and out of form players at the same time?

According to official SL website, the penalty count was 14-5 in Leeds favour.

Hud trying to release Ferres, same with Garbutt at broncos, I assume similar with Falloon given the cocaine scandal and his injuries
No decent half in a similar situation in SL

Not sure what you mean by play maker but if you mean that he is just a runner then it works pretty well for Melbourne and NQL

Thought some of our fans were a disgrace yesterday. Chanting "WTF is going on"

Absolute pr-cks. Acting like spoilt children. Don't know how good we've had it and the second we have a blip they can't wait to get on the players backs.

You don't deserve Leeds Rhinos.

We have a bigger, better squad than most to start with. Cas had more than us out, bloody Wakey had more out. Explain how they can win?

I think the WTF chant moment was down to the headless chicken attacking set where Achurch failed to get over the line.

I also was saying this Last season. We had 5 players McGuire, Sutcliffe, falloon, burrow and lilley to cover 4 positions. 6,7,9 and 14. It only took one injury to make us look so weak in the role. As it has proved. I know it's easier said than done just to sign a HB but it is something that I've been concerned about since Sinfields announcement. One people agreed with until Aiton said he was leaving, then suddenly it wasn't as important and Sutcliffe would be the saviour. Oh and to add to that we don't have a decent goal kicker.

This is not likely obviously. But I'd love us to sign Gale. Came through the academy, young enough to have a decent length career at Leeds and looks ready to step up and control a bigger team.

Can't win.

Leeds sign a HB, they are stunting the younger lads, GIVE YOUTH A CHANCE!

Leeds DONT sign a HB, WTF! These youth players are rubbish, why didn't we stockpile several HB's??

That you need to ask what I mean when I use the term play maker rather explains why you fail to see why Sutcliffe has never shown he is a stand off or the player to replace our main organiser. We should have used the marquee route to get the quality needed if necessary.

If you are from the group that were happy to give youth with unproven ability a chance then stop complaining now when we hit problems. Without a play maker to steer the ship even light headwinds can blow you onto the rocks.

Leeds have played a much applauded off the cuff attractive style of rugby rather than a more boring style based on structured moves. To not replace our main pivot with similar class was a big risk and we now have to hope McGuire remains fit for the rest of the season and that young Golding can provide some spark when he returns.

The young players have to be of the correct quality/readiness - if they are not the club have a duty to the supporters to provide a competitive team.

Whether either Lilley or Sutcliffe will fill eventually fill the above criteria is debatable - one thing is for sure the club needs another half back of the appropriate quality ASAP.

I have some sympathy with GH - Sinfield's departure and Sutcliffe's injury would have thrown a major spanners in the works - I would have thought they were looking at a gradual transition between the two. Finding another Dunneman will be very difficult given the lack of quality in the NRL but a Widdop type steady-eddie to play alongside McGuire would be ideal right now.

McGuire's injury has also compounded an already difficult situation - I am sure he will be back this week and matters will improve.

Can they make the top 4 - it will be tough with Wigan x 2, Saints, Warrington and Hull away before the split it will take a huge effort - it time for some players to grow into the shoes left by Sinfield and Peacock.

McGuire and burrow retires in a couple of years. A HB such as Luke gale/Gareth widdop with experience but still young enough would see over the transition period adding quality whilst giving Sutcliffe and lilley another couple of years to develop around the first team without the pressure of being fully relied on. New signing would have taken over sinfield, Sutcliffe / lilley would take over McGuire in a couple of years.

Even McGuire this season may take quite a while regain form and match fitness

Agreed but he will bring some organisation and direction - no way they would not have gone for a drop goal had he been on the pitch.

Perhaps Falloon may have thought he was still in Australia with the golden point if the game ended in a draw so it was worth taking a punt on winning the game out right?

They won because their players are coming into form and they have a play maker. We lack both of these at the moment.

We have not been able to field a decent play maker since the second game of the season and our players are out of form with the odd exception. So our squad maybe bigger and better on paper but without the elusive form and someone with the skill to take the right options this ceases to be an advantage. None of our pivots at half back, hooker and fullback have been good enough or creative enough and have had their weaknesses exposed. Also opposition have learnt how to reduce the offloads of Cuthbertson which has reduced his effectiveness as a creative player.

I do not know if the decision not to sign a quality halfback to replace Sinfield was the fault of McDermott or Hetherington or both. But I regard this as a serious mistake. However it is too easy just to blame the coach when players are out of form. Hall, Hardaker, Watkins and Sutcliffe have been something of an embarrassment this season at a time when the coach could have expected them to step up to the plate and the loss of McGuire was crucial. We badly missed Ward and JJB and the new injuries and suspensions to Ablett, Briscoe, Golding, Moon, Garbutt have all played a negative part.

Mac has been lambasted by some for not picking Garbutt and Singleton but they have been way below their form of last season while Keinhorst, Mullally and Walters have been more reliable and have shown a better attitude in difficult circumstances. Critics claim Mac only picks senior players but on this occasion he has picked on form. What you also cannot blame the coach for is the poor record of missed tackles particularly from senior players.

If we had a player capable of creating scoring opportunities from all the possession we have had in the opponents red zone so far this season we would have gained the all important momentum and confidence that winning produces. Once this starts to happen you will see form return and performances dramatically improve.

Yes you were one of the few to see the danger.

A team going through a very bad spell.

I thought with Singleton back in the team would be a big plus, but was ridicoulsy ineffective. In the pack it seems that Cuthbo is our only real means of making any yards forward. Which then handicaps his game because he's in 'drive mode' his offloads are being put on the back burner. He's doing it tough and deserves a lot of credit in a team which doesn't.

But for me it the halves which are letting us down badly. So much position on the try line and we never look like scoring. Zak is not Brent Webb, wish he'd stop chiming into the attacking line as he never finds a pass, just gets caught in possession. The same goes for Sutcliffe. The majority of the time he'll just take it in the fringes, hoping to find half a yard to tear into. So effectively our pivots in the dangerzone don't pass. Which if I can see, Super League coaches can too, so very easy to defend against if you keep a straight line of defence and work as one. You can argue we could have more players in movement to aid the halves but no-one is bossing the game. There is a lack of leadership which is evident on almost every last tackle kick, dis organisation everywhere. No-one standing out or dropping back to say 'I've got this'.

You can add this to the long list of excuses - on firmer ground both JJB and Hardaker would have scored yesterday.

What a pathetic excuse but typical of certain Leeds fans with a sense of entitlement.

I'll make it easy for you, it's not SL that's pish poor as you put it and I hate to break your heart but it's just Leeds who are currently pants - the rest of us are playing just fine - you did notice that most of our tries were well though out team tries rather than barge overs from kicks - and hell we are one of the lesser teams in this pish poor SL

Have you worked it out yet?

You make a good point, and i think teams have quickly realised we have little to no creative spark in the team from half back right now, so can concentrate on limiting the likes of Cuthbertsons off loads and keeping tabs on reducing space for Hardaker and Watkins and when teams do that there is little more we have than barging it up and running up blind alleys.

Haven't watched a game so far i have enjoyed, or kept me enthralled and not flicked between channels through boredom. 5 games shown over easter and all pretty low standard imo.

Nothing to do with how Leeds are performing, just saying it how i'm seeing it right now.Congrats on the win BTW.

Really, I thought they were all pretty good - but then I'm not totally myopic.

Just because the clown SKY team tell you we are having a thrilling easter of breathless SL rugby, doesn't mean it is true.

I never said it had anything to do with us winning or losing, you did that.

This is the first season in years where I have found it hard to watch, most games on offer have been almost as poor as the current Leeds performances. I gave up on it yesterday, let the missus put her soaps on.

same here.

SL is pants right now.If you think about it, if we had not thrown away games against Wire, Cas and Wakey which we could easily have won going into the last 5 minutes we would have 10 points now and right amongst it playing as pitifully poor as we are. Its shocking stuff no doubt about it.