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| Quote ="Frosties."Achurch and Handley not in the Featherstone squad shows to me that they'll be playing on Sunday. Baldwinson included for them. Squad announced tomorrow at 10am, but expecting.
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Handley Watkins Moon Hall
Sutcliffe Lilley
Galloway Burrow Cuthbertson
Ferres Delaney
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Achurch Mullally Keinhorst Garbutt'"
Minus Achurch and swap with Walters and that's the squad. You've got to wonder what Achurch has to do, gets called back and not even playing.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"This has been suggested before.....and I have to agree it is surely better than starting with Burrow with all the additional defensive, detrimental repercussions that entails against a side like NQ.
McDermott once surprised us all by starting Clarkson at DH with good success; Keinhorst would go even better I believe. He's a similar tenacious tackler who can hold his own in the middle, but who could probably do more offensively. Burrow (as is best) could come on from the bench to mix it up a little in attack.
Fingers crossed though that Faloon makes it
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Golding (Sutcliffe)
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Faloon (Keinhorst)
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Ablett (Keinhorst) (Delaney)
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Mullally!
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| I'm quite surprised Walters is ahead of Achurch in the pecking order at Leeds, makes you wonder why he's kept around!
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| Quote ="Him"No, a much worse choice.'"
Right... so...
Leeds have home advantage, cold and damp playing conditions, two SL games under their belt and an English referee armed with English SL-esque refereeing interpretations and you're still not happy?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Imagine flying all that way just to ref a meaningless friendly though.'"
Did Gary Hetherington tell you to say that?
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| Quote ="William Eve"Right... so...
Leeds have home advantage, cold and damp playing conditions, two SL games under their belt and an English referee armed with English SL-esque refereeing interpretations and you're still not happy?'"
Have you been living on the moon William ? Silverwood always ar**holes around the Aussie teams reffing by their interpretations. Don't expect any different on Sunday. I will be taking a sick bag with me in case Silverwood's ar**holing gets too sickly for me.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Did Gary Hetherington tell you to say that?'"
No. We're not in regular contact, and he doesn't tell me what opinions to express on a forum.
Why do you ask?
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| Quote ="leeds owl"Have you been living on the moon William ? Silverwood always ar**holes around the Aussie teams reffing by their interpretations. Don't expect any different on Sunday. I will be taking a sick bag with me in case Silverwood's ar**holing gets too sickly for me.'"
If an Aussie referee had been appointed, you'd think it was unfair. You get an English referee and you still think it's unfair. Short of insisting all the Cowboys players play with a ball and chain attached to their legs, is there anything else which could possibly assuage your concerns of bias against Leeds?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"No. We're not in regular contact, and he doesn't tell me what opinions to express on a forum.
Why do you ask?'"
Gary Hetherington spent several years and several trips down under negotiating this extended WCC tournament. It's his baby and it's his formulation which you were being so critical of and flippant towards in response to Rogues Gallery earlier.
Good to see. Well done.
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| Quote ="William Eve"If an Aussie referee had been appointed, you'd think it was unfair. You get an English referee and you still think it's unfair. Short of insisting all the Cowboys players play with a ball and chain attached to their legs, is there anything else which could possibly assuage your concerns of bias against Leeds?'"
have to agree with you here, nationality of the ref is of little relevance in my opinion. Only on the international stage do i believe we need/have to have a neutral in charge.
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| Only solution is to persuade Thierry Alibert out of retirement. Everyone would be happy then.
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| If it was going to be an English ref it should've been Thaler. He was deemed the best ref last year by being awarded both finals so when you have the two GF winners facing off its only logical to pick your best ref.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Achurch and Handley not in the Featherstone squad shows to me that they'll be playing on Sunday. Baldwinson included for them.'"
Fev game called off anyway now. Ablett and Briscoe could be out for up to 8 weeks but not definate yet.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"have to agree with you here, nationality of the ref is of little relevance in my opinion. Only on the international stage do i believe we need/have to have a neutral in charge.'"
Neutral referees at international level ain't going to happen when the only two powerbrokers in the game (Australia and ourselves) insist upon the appointment of their very own referees. The regular parochial spats during every international series between the two on this issue is tedious and embarrassing beyond belief.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"have to agree with you here, nationality of the ref is of little relevance in my opinion. Only on the international stage do i believe we need/have to have a neutral in charge.'"
Is the WCC not on the International stage then?
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| Went to Salford yesterday to watch the Cowboys training!! They are a big set of players!!!! I know they are only training and were doing soft tackling against Salford, but some of the shapes and moves they were putting out were spectacular!! They look very quick, and sharp despite their lack of games!! Leeds need to concentrate on shutting down Thurston, as he was running the line very very quickly, and getting the ball out to the wings with ease!! Like I say, only a training run, but they look sharp!!!
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Ps James Tamou is a monster!!!
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"Is the WCC not on the International stage then?'"
No it is on the club stage played by two teams from different countries.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"No it is on the club stage played by two teams from different countries.'"
So it is still on the International club stage then.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"So it is still on the International club stage then.'"
Make up your mind
International stage or international club stage
Btw no such thing as international club stage.....it is just club stage.
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| As poor as Saints have been I'd have loved us to have signed Walmsley when he was available. Considering he was a Leeds fan growing up then hopefully he ends up at Headingley one day.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"As poor as Saints have been I'd have loved us to have signed Walmsley when he was available. Considering he was a Leeds fan growing up then hopefully he ends up at Headingley one day.'"
Queue him getting injured
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| Without Walmsley and Roby that Saints side looks like a bottom half SL team throughout.Yes, i like the look of a few of the young lads like Greenwood and Savellio but the rest are average for mine.The side has been regressing badly since 2011, the fluky 2014 GF win glossed over it a bit but if i was a saints fan right now i'd be seriously concerned.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Without Walmsley and Roby that Saints side looks like a bottom half SL team throughout.Yes, i like the look of a few of the young lads like Greenwood and Savellio but the rest are average for mine.The side has been regressing badly since 2011, the fluky 2014 GF win glossed over it a bit but if i was a saints fan right now i'd be seriously concerned.'"
In the forwards Greg Richards and Luke Thompson simply aren't top 4 material IMO as much as they play weekly for Saints.
And as good as Kyle Amor was in the first half of 2014 and all the commotion about us not keeping him....in the last year or so would you have him based on his showings?
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"In the forwards Greg Richards and Luke Thompson simply aren't top 4 material IMO as much as they play weekly for Saints.'"
yep, and Wilkin goes missing again in a big game.Walsh has looked shot since his bad injury and the three quarter, well would you have any near our team? i mean Jack Owens FFS!
Anyway, it's for the Saints fans to worry about, and to think some on here think we have serious issues!
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| Just to Add i would have Percivil who is obviously injured, he could become very good we will see.
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