Forget Noble, you want McNamara in to sort 'em out.

Exactly and MacD said at the pre-season sponsors meeting, "I want to get away from the Australian style of play". Well he's succeeded in that all right.

whose biting, i'm a Wigan fan, just find Warringtons new "Big club" status very laughable, 2 CC trophys in 35 years isn't exactly a great achievment

your still biting

You don't seem to be getting the drift of most of the posts here. It's not a case of Leeds fans expecting a trip to Old traford or Wembley. If they get beaten after putting a 100% effort in then hey-ho. The majority of these guys have been world-beaters on their day and are playing like chumps at the mo. Our defence is pathetic. Something is badly wrong behind the scenes, it's not down to Mags and JP being out.
Maybe it is a Bulls conspiricy to wreck our season with two of their finest at the coaching helm at Headingley

If that is the case, there's not enough of them walking stangely.

After yesterday McDermott has won 36% of all his games as a coach.

McDermott's credentials were never good enough to get the Leeds job however when we were at our peak with Tony Smith as the coach our defence was rock solid and I presumed McDermott was our defensive coach. The reason for this was that when McDermott left to go to London our defence was never as solid. Last years performances were about brilliant individual long distance tries but our defence was dreadful. Bringing McD in one would have thought that the first thing he would do was to sort the defence out. He appears to have totally neglected this in favour of throwing the ball about with gay abandon. When we were 10 nil up yesterday I said that I'd settle for that if we could nil them! We seemed to have several new set moves but all we did was go through them and fail to draw a man resulting in us not gaining any ground - might of well have stuck to one man rugby a la Northern.

and another thing, what the hell does he say to them at half time? They come out worse than when they went in. The only time we came out better in the 2nd half recently was at Wakefield when a certain GH stormed into the dressing room at half time, none too happy, and read the riot act!

There are two fundamental questions here:

1. Are we improving as the season progresses?
2. Does GH think we can improve to a level that he finds acceptable?

Depending on the answers to the above, BMD will either be Leeds coach next year or not. Either way I don't see him leaving before the end of this season as GH won't sack him mid season, and he certainly won't leave of his own accord.

Really?

That many?

I would have thought it was far less than that.

I heard little story from someone who was in the same box has GH at Wakefield .... He said nothing during the first half farce at Belle Vue, being increasingly redder.

Five minutes before half time, there was a cry to the effect of "Right, that's it ..." and off stormed the Sleeve.

He came back five minutes after the break looking somewhat puce ....

Allegedly.

Good.

As a supposed 'ex Royal Marine', I thought the first thing BMD would have given us is a bone-hard nasty defence, but given what was going on yesterday ... It was pathetic

Come on mate.

We all know Marines are just blokes who failed 'P Company'

Totally agree

big clubs win and lose ..(4 times in our case) grand finals.
but wev'e won it a few times along with the rhino's.
has warrington ever GOT TO a grand final????..2 measley challenge cup wins in how many years?...sorry to say your not a big club yet...(doubt you ever will)..

ive said it its too silly to respond to.there is'nt a club to come up to the legacy left by yourselves ,bulls and of course us.dont bite at this nonsense!

I'm starting to feel a bit sorry for Brian Mac

He's arrived at a club who the previous year didn't deliver a trophy, so he has the expecations carried on over to him and at the minute he has a club who arent quite clicking

Not sure it's quite taxi time just yet, but yesterdays performance was dire.

I know we only get a glimpse in to the changing room at half time so Mac could have been very unlucky two weeks running (perhaps its a Sky conspiracy against him!). Last week he was playing with a rubber glove (to be fair he probably didn't need to say too much last week) and this week it appeared to be left to Lowes to dispense the half time wisdom, which judging on the team performance was completely ineffective. The last game I saw Lowes coached team play was Quins thrashing of Wire, complete with the Matt King 'wave' to the fans and wire fans so incensed one was trying to set fire to his shirt!

Smith seemed to be a passenger for 40 minutes in the game - why did it take the coaching staff so long to realise he wasn't fit enough to be on the pitch.

At Quins Mac always had the excuse of rarely having a fully fit squad (one I was prepared to give him too) and at the moment at Leeds he's suffering a similar situation, but the personnel we had in the 17 yesterday should have been able to put in a much better performance against a team that was very low on confidence.

That is including his time with Quins.

I know when we played Wire it was 33% so I guess somehow somewhere he has improved as a coach by 3%

Surely Lowes and wisdom cannot be used in the same sentence. Ged rid of the pair now!!

They can if you also include the word 'Norman'.