Sometimes though, your best is just not good enough.

Having spoken to people at the club they were always scaling back during the season.

The majority of the squad came back from the world cup physically and mentally shattered.

There was little or no pre-season before the players had to attempt to peak for a WCC and, shortly thereafter an earl;y cup tie against Saints.

The training and game plan have been deliberately scaled down all season long.

If you listened to Mclennan's post match interviews after the cas game he said they had targeted that game, after the break, for quite some time as the point to scale up the training, scale up the preparation and scale up the performance.

If you watched us in the game we played a very different brand of rugby to that we have played all year. It was very good.

So, with that in mind it is not an unreasonable proposition to state that the Case game was our best performance because it was pivotal and they had geared up for it. Not only that but they executed the game plan to perfection.

I don't give a about the opposition and their lack of intensity. I was more concerned with how we looked in the run in to the playoffs and our performance and discipline were spot on.

So, my enlightened friend, that is why I consider it our best performance of the year. Now, am I a fekkwitt or can you offer me a more reasoned and justified rebuttal?

Can you tell me how many knock-ons there were please because I can't remember that many, oh and by the way it was very wet that night which inevitably leads to dropped ball. As for executing a perfect game plan and beating the in-form side in the Grand Final I think I would call that a complete performance.

How has it got to the stage where leeds fans have become so negative? especially as we are back to back champions, At least in the old days "whinos" had an excuse to be negative now you have none.

The short pre-season and slow build up was made public very early by the coach and he specifically highlighted the differences in performnce due to this but alas it was ignored or not accepted by many!!
I will say though i hope our new found discipline continues because earlier in the season it's been very poor.

What was the difference between playing poorly in a World Cup and playing poorly in a Tri-Nations series?

Eh??
The pre-season at leeds was deliberately scaled down due to the world cup what's that got to do with how england/great britain played in a tri-nations or world cup???????

I'd guess the numbers of Leeds players involved and the length of time the tournament ran over?

did not read lol

After your line about whinos finding something to moan about, i knew throwing that little t line in would draw you off your horse for a long winded diatribe.

Good job dave man.

Because you're not too bright son.

Eh? I posted on a thread I am interested in. I posted a thought out and articulate opinion. WTF are you on about? Do you understand how message boards work? If you want to discuss the issue at hand that is fine but do not try to play me you insignificant stain on Richie Ramrods' underpants because you're as out of your depth as a Morecambe cockle picker.

Or did you just get embarrassed because you weren't bright enough to articulate a rebuttal so you thought you'd post that you were trolling?

Brilliant!

You missed the most obvious difference to McClennan's Leeds, the absence of a Tri Nations tournament to conclude the 2007 season.

Bandwidth exceeded fekktard.

Oh, having spoken to people at the club huh?

Well not everyone is afforded the luxury of having chats with people in the know.

But since when did what they say really mean anything? I bet at the start of the season they were probably ''determined to get to wembley and lift the cup''.

Majority? I'm not sure about numbers but i don't think the majority of our squad played in the world cup. A large percent of our key players and starting 13 yes.

No pre season so the players could re-charge the batteries etc?

Sounds very well thought out by McClennan and co and makes some of our early season wins against well prepared fired up opposition even more impressive if that is the case.

So the team were playing within themselves on purpose........yet still winning against fired up opposition trying their hardest? Damn, those early season battles are looking more impressive by the minute.

But I guess we need to possible re think the super league get's better mantra.



It's a personal perference but I take no notice whatsoever of post match, pre match and interviews in general from players and coaches. I just don't think they're useful.

I've heard so much stuff over the years. Team a is really fired up and has been working overtime in training. Team a then loses by 70 points.




Cool story bro. But it'll be the qualities they showed in those early season battles that will shine through if they are to win the big prize.



Props to you, spoken lklike a true one eyed supporter

Jimmy - no player or team can peak all season. Not physically, not mentally.

Leeds clearly tried to achieve a peak of sorts early season for the WCC and the benefits of that would be evident for some weeks after.

What they couldn't do is maintain that intensity through to October. They eased off in order to build for the business end of the season.

Best listen to Jimmy. I suspect that when it comes to peaking too soon he is our resident expert,

I still remember the one quote from McClennan after the Wakey game when he said "we haven't started our run yet". We've done exactly the same for the past two seasons. You'll probably find we played really poorly in July and August in both of those years if you look back.

Only if faced with the image of an orange, hairless, glistening muscle man whose steroid reduced appendage is held snugly in a lycra pouch.

But then who wouldn't?

:3iiuv5o4Oh, so now you want to debate the issue? So you weren'#t just trolling me then. How do you know I haven't trolled this response out of you?



I'll indulge you.

:3iiuv5o4I bet they were. Do you think they weren't?

:3iiuv5o4I don't have the numbers either but I'd guess more than half of our squad of 25 were involved, hence the majority. Certainly the majority of our starting 17.

:3iiuv5o4Very little pre season.

:3iiuv5o4I agree. He's made the most of a bad situation and is doing his utmost to ensure we peak at the right time, again.

:3iiuv5o4No. The coaching and medical staff were scaling back training and match preparation. I'd imagine the team give 100% every time they take the field, win lose or draw.

:3iiuv5o4Eh? Are you confused?

:3iiuv5o4I take notice of everything. I discern what I find useful. Ignoring a subject matter simply means you don't have the full picture, which is self evident from your posts.

:3iiuv5o4I'd imagine it will be how the team plays on the day rather than some qualities they showed 7 months ago but whatever,

As G1 mentioned on Radio Leeds before the Cas game McClennan said that him and the staff had always targetted the Cas game as the start of the run in to the GF, it may all be just talk but he did say that.

Lol, another one of those comments.

I can only assume the people making these comments are insecure with their sexuality



P.s. steroids don't reduce the size of you ''apendage''. Ignorance at it's finest.

really? i work with two guys who took them and it shrunk theres. to the same size as your brain really tinyrod

I can substantiate my claims with just one post (to follow).

As for the steroid related shrinkage - that rather depends on what steroids are being taken and what part of the appendage you're talking about. It also links to relative size - i.e. bodybuilders appear to have very small genitalia partly because of shrinkage to testes directly attributable to steroid usage and partly because the penis appears to be small relative to the steroid swollen thighs.

Anyway back to that post I promised you...

yeah its like the whole 'how big is Wayne McDonald's c*ck' thing.

Even if he had a 10 incher, for arguments sake, its gonna look more impressive hanging from Rob Burrow, than it is the giant lump that Wayne is.
it's all about the proportions, just like dwarfs.