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| Quote ="Saddened!"Eastwood can't come over for the play offs as he wasn't registered in time for the deadline. No one can sign players for the play offs now.'"
I think you'll find he was provisionally registered to us and that this year at least the agreement with the doggies is the equivalent to loan deal!!
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| My understanding was Eastwood is still on a Leeds contract and he is just loaned to the Bulldogs for this season.
I would imagine that means he is a registered Leeds player and can play as soon as his visa is sorted.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Eastwood can't come over for the play offs as he wasn't registered in time for the deadline. No one can sign players for the play offs now.'"
Yep, thought so, you are talking rubbish. If you would like to please point out to me where the RFL Operational Rules for 2009 it talks about player eligibility for the league please feel free to point these out to me. Of course for the CC it is rules B4:7 to B4:10, so don't look that far down.
Anywhere?
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"He's a good player and has a good football 'brain'. Had he not become quite so Bunter-esque he may have stayed more as a stand off/loose forward.
FWIW I've never heard or read him say anything particularly positive about moving to Leeds. The interview he gave to Queensland TV on the day of the deal (when still a Bronco, prior to visa issues and no Bulldogs in sight) he basically said it was amoney-only deal for him. At least he's being honest I suppose.'" As long as he's committed once he's here that will do for me.
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| I'm not having a go. In some ways its refreshing to hear him talk that way instead of the usual 'challenge' and 'life experience' cobblers most overseas players spout.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Yep, thought so, you are talking rubbish. If you would like to please point out to me where the RFL Operational Rules for 2009 it talks about player eligibility for the league please feel free to point these out to me. Of course for the CC it is rules B4:7 to B4:10, so don't look that far down.
Anywhere?'"
So you're saying there isn't an RFL deadline on registering players to play in the SL competition?
Surprised at that one.
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| Me too. I thought that after the Andrew Johns and then Adrian Morley farces that they had moved to stop sides signing someone up just for the playoffs?
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Me too. I thought that after the Andrew Johns and then Adrian Morley farces that they had moved to stop sides signing someone up just for the playoffs?'"
But its not just for the play offs.
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| Would explain why we've never replaced him (for this season) if there is a chance he could join immediately. Would give us a massive boost going in to the play offs.
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| Quote ="Richie Ramrod"Peacock is on the slide'"
Nonsense. He's made the second most metres in SL of any player (3135) and has a slightly higher metre per carry stat (7.24 as opposed to 7.20) than the leader, James Graham (4049).
Morley has made fewer metres (2673) but has a higher metre per carry rate (8.12).
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| Quote ="Richie Ramrod" if you straw poled NRL coaches the vast majority would take Eastwood.
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Would you mind carrying out that poll for me, I'm a little busy to nip to Aus today and I don't have their phone numbers? I wouldn't ask normally, but it's just that if that poll doesn't take place there will be a few people, cynics and sceptics mostly, who will claim that you've just made that up based on nothing whatsoever.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Would you mind carrying out that poll for me, I'm a little busy to nip to Aus today and I don't have their phone numbers? I wouldn't ask normally, but it's just that if that poll doesn't take place there will be a few people, cynics and sceptics mostly, who will claim that you've just made that up based on nothing whatsoever.'"
well said.
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| Quote ="tvoc"So you're saying there isn't an RFL deadline on registering players to play in the SL competition?
Surprised at that one.'"
Having looked at the operation rules, it would appear not.
In the general competition rules section you have the following -
[iB1:9 No later than 31 October prior to the start of each season, each Club shall notify the
Board in writing of the names of up to 25 (30 for National League) players who shall
constitute that Club's provisional first team squad for that Season ("the Provisional First
Team Squad"icon_wink.gif . Each Club shall notify the Board immediately of any changes to this
Provisional First Team Squad. No later than 1 February prior to the commencement of
the season each Club shall notify the Board in writing of the squad (“First Team
Squad”) numbers of those 25 players who will then become the Clubs First Team Squad
and only members of that First Team Squad shall be entitled to play for that Club’s first
team in League and/or Cup matches. The Board shall ensure that its Performance
Department monitors use of players by all Clubs.
B1:10 Clubs may with the approval of the Board, to replace injured or ill players or players
transferred to other Clubs or who have ceased playing the Game, alter the constituent
members of their First Team Squad during a Season and all such changes shall be
notified in writing to, and shall be subject to the approval of, the Board. In addition Clubs
shall be able to apply for dispensation to replace a member of their First Team Squad
with a Player that the Club believes is of a higher standard than the Player he replaces.
B1:11 Clubs shall be entitled to select and play any player from their First Team Squad from
time to time for any Match.[/i
When you look at the League specific operational rules it doe not have anything in about player eligibility. However, if you look in the CC specific rules it has a whole section explaining player eligibility and the deadlines for changes to the squad. Ergo, just the above rules apply to the league (for both SL and Championship).
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| I was under the understanding that a player did have to be registered with a club at a certain point to be eligable to play for that team in that specific season. The idea was brought in to stop what happened in the past with the short term signings like morley at the Bulls.
As for eastwood i thought we held his registration anyways and registered as a Leeds player but loaned him to the Bulldogs thus meaning he can start whenever
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| Quote ="bewildered"As for eastwood i thought we held his registration anyways and registered as a Leeds player but loaned him to the Bulldogs thus meaning he can start whenever'"
Whichever way you look at it (and whether there is a deadline set by the RFL or not) the RFL have to authorise a player to enable them to take part in the comp and in Eastwood's example, I presume, that can only take place if and when he has his Visa approved.
That being the case I don't imagine that he has been successfully registered by Leeds with the RFL at any point this season so far.
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| Quote ="bewildered"I was under the understanding that a player did have to be registered with a club at a certain point to be eligable to play for that team in that specific season. The idea was brought in to stop what happened in the past with the short term signings like morley at the Bulls.As for eastwood i thought we held his registration anyways and registered as a Leeds player but loaned him to the Bulldogs thus meaning he can start whenever'"
i thought the only rule they brought in to hinder this was that a player brought in would have his wages count on the cap as if he had been there all season!! so if wire gave joey johns say 30 grand a month that would be calculated as if he had been there all season getting paid that.
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| Quote ="bewildered"I was under the understanding that a player did have to be registered with a club at a certain point to be eligable to play for that team in that specific season. The idea was brought in to stop what happened in the past with the short term signings like morley at the Bulls.
As for eastwood i thought we held his registration anyways and registered as a Leeds player but loaned him to the Bulldogs thus meaning he can start whenever'"
Not as far as I am aware and from what I can see in the operation rules for 2009 there is only a restriction on player eligibility in the specific CC rules. The league specific rule are silent on player elgibility so the general competition rules apply and the information on first team and full squads is above. As you can see you can transfer a player in and out of your squad at anytime if approved by the board.
I am happy (well sort of ) to be proved wrong if anyone else can show me different?
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Would you mind carrying out that poll for me, I'm a little busy to nip to Aus today and I don't have their phone numbers? I wouldn't ask normally, but it's just that if that poll doesn't take place there will be a few people, cynics and sceptics mostly, who will claim that you've just made that up based on nothing whatsoever.'"
I said IF but dont let that get in the way of your attempt for cheap laughs/thrills.
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| Quote ="Richie Ramrod"I said IF but dont let that get in the way of your attempt for cheap laughs/thrills.'"
If I travelled to Saturn I would find that the stars spell "Ramrod is a gimp"
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| If his appeal isn't successful whether he's registered or not/whether he'll be eligble or not will all be irrelevant.
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| Quote ="rhinoholic"If his appeal isn't successful whether he's registered or not/whether he'll be eligble or not will all be irrelevant.'"
True but if his appeal is successful but he falls out of the plane on the way over his registration is also irrelevant.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"True but if his appeal is successful but he falls out of the plane on the way over his registration is also irrelevant.'"
That's gonna have to be a hell of a hole in the plane to get his ar[is[/ie out of it...
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| He should find out if his appeal has been successful middle of August and then speculation of will he/wont he will be revealed.
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| Quote ="Richie Ramrod"I said IF but dont let that get in the way of your attempt for cheap laughs/thrills.'"
Cheap thrills?
Hello, Mr Kettle, I've got a call from the Pot for you on line 2..........
Your IF rendered your whole statement pointless. I could say that IF you did a straw poll of NRL coaches they would name me the greatest player of all time. Wouldn't make it any more true than your attempt to present your own opinion/trolling as being the view of several other people who have, in fact, expressed no opinion on the matter to my/your knowledge.
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