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| Quote ="King Monkey"not really, no. A lot depends on when a prop is brought into the game.
Leuluai and Feka have very different roles.
You'd be better off comparing Feka and Ali Lauititi or Peacock and Fielden.'"
that doesn't go for his argument though
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| Quote ="tvoc"So your out to bag Kylie Leuluai here?
I wouldn't swap him for any prop on Wigan's books and that most certainly includes Paleasina who I find good and bad in about equal measure.'"
No I was merely pointing out that he is far more effective than Kylie Leuluai.
He doesn't miss as many tackles, carries the ball more, busts more tackles, gives fewer penalties and makes far more metres.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"No I was merely pointing out that he is far more effective than Kylie Leuluai.
'" Did yuo wee yourself laughing when you posted that or did you keep a straight face?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Leeds only had to play two teams to win the grand final.'"
Dont be stupid. I know its a long time since for Wigan, and you are unlikely to see it any time soon. But in order to get to that GF they needed a full season of superiority to be in that position.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Leeds only had to play two teams to win the grand final.'" If its' that easy do you think Fekka and WIgan will do it any time soon so you can stop idolising a team that played in a final 15 years ago?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"No I was merely pointing out that he is far more effective than Kylie Leuluai.'"
The stats show you to be correct. However, as i've already said, they have totally different roles so the comparison is a non entity.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"No.'"
That's alright then.
Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I was merely pointing out that he is far more effective than Kylie Leuluai.
He doesn't miss as many tackles, carries the ball more, busts more tackles, gives fewer penalties and makes far more metres.'"
How so? When one [url=http://www.slstats.org/p1332/Kylie%20Leuluai.html(Leuluai)[/url started every game in the season you're seeking to compare against another [url=http://www.slstats.org/p726/Iafeta%20Paleaaesina.html(Palea'aesina)[/url who spent most of his time waiting to run against tired opponents?
If it's not a personal question, have you been following the game long?
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| .........he should receive at least a five minute standing ovation. Nothing less will do.
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| Quote ="tvoc"That's alright then.
How so? When one [url=http://www.slstats.org/p1332/Kylie%20Leuluai.html(Leuluai)[/url started every game in the season you're seeking to compare against another [url=http://www.slstats.org/p726/Iafeta%20Paleaaesina.html(Palea'aesina)[/url who spent most of his time waiting to run against tired opponents?
If it's not a personal question, have you been following the game long?'"
Best part of sixty years.
That's why they all extract the urine out of me on the Wigan site.
Now you may not believe this but Leeds are my favourite Yorkshire team. I have some great memories from the past from there, Billy Bostons two magnificent 75 yarders in 1957 (I was six years old at the time), Green Vigos hat trick which virtually ended John Atkinsons career, the mission impossible game when we had to play five games in eight days to win the Championship and many many more.
One of my favourite all time tries was scored by Paul Medley when he was at Leeds playing at Central Park. He flew down the Douglas side touchline towards the Kop end and must have beat five men with ppure pace and power.
Leeds are like Wigan in that they are disliked all over Yorkshire, just as Wigan are in Lancashire (they all hate the big boys) and you've IMO always tried to play good open rugby.
On the Feka thing, I'm glad he's playing for us and not you.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"On the Feka thing, I'm glad he's playing for us and not you.'"
That makes two of us so everyone's a winner. Hope it's a good match, could do with one this season and they usually bring the best out of each other.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Best part of sixty years.
That's why they all extract the urine out of me on the Wigan site.
Now you may not believe this but Leeds are my favourite Yorkshire team. I have some great memories from the past from there, Billy Bostons two magnificent 75 yarders in 1957 (I was six years old at the time), Green Vigos hat trick which virtually ended John Atkinsons career, the mission impossible game when we had to play five games in eight days to win the Championship and many many more.
One of my favourite all time tries was scored by Paul Medley when he was at Leeds playing at Central Park. He flew down the Douglas side touchline towards the Kop end and must have beat five men with ppure pace and power.
Leeds are like Wigan in that they are disliked all over Yorkshire, just as Wigan are in Lancashire (they all hate the big boys) and you've IMO always tried to play good open rugby.
On the Feka thing, I'm glad he's playing for us and not you.'" i too remember the 1957 tries by the great man the 13-11 cup game and the 5-5 1st round cup match at headingley then the 32-7 drubbing few days later at CP .
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| And on the rest:
Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Billy Bostons two magnificent 75 yarders in 1957 (I was six years old at the time), Green Vigos hat trick which virtually ended John Atkinsons career, the mission impossible game when we had to play five games in eight days to win the Championship and many many more.'"
Remember all those bar the Boston days. You missed out a few of my favourites though. The Wigan player strike match in '72 and the 38-1 in '79 and 70-0 in '05. Happy days.
Quote ="Rogues Gallery"One of my favourite all time tries was scored by Paul Medley when he was at Leeds playing at Central Park. He flew down the Douglas side touchline towards the Kop end and must have beat five men with ppure pace and power.'"
Remember it well, a Challenge Cup game, that one and a score from Schofield putting Leeds in command before Wigan's customary demolition of all Leeds' dreams.
Wigan V Leeds is still a monster game in my eyes.
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Remember it well, a Challenge Cup game, that one and a score from Schofield putting Leeds in command before Wigan's customary demolition of all Leeds' dreams.'"
30-14?
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| Quote ="King Monkey"30-14?'"
Correct, in front of 25,180 at Central Park on St Valentine's Day in 1988.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Correct, in front of 25,180 at Central Park on St Valentine's Day in 1988.'"
Not 100% sure, but I think that was my first Leeds away game.
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Remember it well, a Challenge Cup game, that one and a score from Schofield putting Leeds in command before Wigan's customary demolition of all Leeds' dreams.
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I think you're thinking of the game where they all shaved their tashes (inc Cliffy).
I think the Medders try was a league game before Schoey played for us.
I could be wrong though, rare as that is.
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"Not 100% sure, but I think that was my first Leeds away game.'"
Would you like me to confirm it for you?
I'll check if you were on the list.
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| Quote ="G1"You sure?'"
Yeah, pretty much.
Leeds other try scorer was Peter Tunks and the solitary goal came from David Stephenson. It was the same season as the great Leeds semi final victory over Wigan at Burnden Park in the Regal Trophy, not that it did them much good in the final despite Roy Powell's best efforts and your mate Schoey hitting a post with a drop goal attempt..
Edit: Except I've probably got the wrong Medley try altogether as the CC try wasn't down the Douglas stand side at all.
Quote ="G1"I could be wrong though, rare as that is.'"
Just stick to calling people ts, it's what you do best.
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| I'm almost certain the Medley try was in a league game, it was a great try.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Would you like me to confirm it for you?
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You know, coming from you, I could believe you'd have that list
How long after the JP Final and Widnes game at home was it? As I've said in the past, that Widnes game was my 1st Leeds game.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I'm almost certain the Medley try was in a league game, it was a great try.'"
Oh that Medley try. There were so many to choose from.
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"You know, coming from you, I could believe you'd have that list
How long after the JP Final and Widnes game at home was it? As I've said in the past, that Widnes game was my 1st Leeds game.'"
JP Final - 9th January 1988
Widnes (H) - 17th January 1988
Wigan (A) - 14th February 1988
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| Quote ="tvoc"And on the rest:
Remember all those bar the Boston days. You missed out a few of my favourites though. The Wigan player strike match in '72 and the 38-1 in '79 and 70-0 in '05. Happy days.
Remember it well, a Challenge Cup game, that one and a score from Schofield putting Leeds in command before Wigan's customary demolition of all Leeds' dreams.
Wigan V Leeds is still a monster game in my eyes.'"
I could have mentioned Offiahs 10 tries and the drubbing at Old Trafford, but I was being courteous.
But in all seriousness the Wigan v Leeds games are ones I always look forward to. As I have said on another thread, we'll be in the supporters club (small room) from around 6 p.m tomorrow.
Come and have a chat, we genuinely love and are passionate about our rugby.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I could have mentioned Offiahs 10 tries and the drubbing at Old Trafford, but I was being courteous.
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No you couldn't you were remembering Leeds V Wigan games at Headingley at that point.
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Edit: Except I've probably got the wrong Medley try altogether as the CC try wasn't down the Douglas stand side at all.
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Still, I am enjoying my small victory.
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