Then again the origin coaches probably commit to more than the two days of the camp that Bennett allegedly had.

Hope hurricane Barbara doesn't flood kirkstall again but if you have a bad season again it's something to blame LOL

Would you really want your best players to spend 3 weeks being coached by Paul Anderson - really?

Granted whilst the SL coaches will only be worried about the effects of their own team, I really don't think the timing of this was going to be any good anyway. Really strange time hold this camp. A SL season is long enough already before the internationals, probably too long. Let them be back at their clubs being wrapped up in cotton wool instead of expecting them to go all year round.

At least we don't have to wonder what Billys excuse will be if Leeds do well, he'll vanish for a few months like last time

No. 100% no. Not sure they'd derive much from only 2 days with Bennett either.

Looks like this board is ticking off some of these excuses I predicted before the season

If we win a trophy will Mac get the credit do you think, or will it be because McGuire/Burrow/JJB coached the team?

We have won nothing yet and still a long way to go in the season.looks like we are keeping ourselves out of the middle 8s, which is a relief but to start believing we are going to do a 2015 or anything like would be jumping the gun a little imo.

He will get plenty of credit off me & rightly so but we're only 8 games in & whilst i applaud the turnaround ,give Kudos to Mc.D & the Squad tougher tests lay ahead.
Also it's noted that Mc.D has had Morley Sinfield & Leuluai join in trainibg sessions that's come from him himself not made up or rumoured.
That initself is a good move imo.

I'm still working out how Kirke isn't being blamed for our fitness levels this year after he was responsible for us being so knackered in matches last year

He said Leuluai had talked to the team, given he was at the club last year also as welfare officer I'm sure he did the same thing.

His reference to Sinfield was purely to do with talking to Golding about goal kicking, which again I'm sure he did with Sutcliffe previously.

Here we go

No one's said anything of the sort Biff.

I said IF we win a trophy. It's a big if too and i'll be happy just to see us keep on improving and make the top 4, after last season. Anything extra on top of that would be a big bonus.

No one is saying we'll do a 2015.....but a lot had us down for a 2016 repeat and they weren't shy at slagging off people who backed the club to bounce back this season......so nothing wrong I think in having a little fun back at their expense giving the dogs abuse at posters they dished out when things were going badly.

They've all spent time during training sessions with the team & individuals & were given credit by Mc.D for doing so.

See above.

Dogs abuse??
Apart from you & loiner 81 v Bill & Sal on endless threads where was the dogs abuse exactly?

Yeah and with the exception of Morley do you think they weren't doing the same last year?

Wrt Sinfield whenever he was interviewed or spoken to he always said he was too busy to become involved barring 1 pre-season GK session with Sutty & Lilley.
Kylie irrc was still studying most of the tume for his accountacy degree wasn't he?

Leuluai was given credit for talking to the group post Castleford, Sinfield for talking to Golding about goalkicking. Not getting involved with training as you make out.

If we win a trophy I'll be more than happy to give BM massive credit. I'll even be happy with a top 4 and reasonable showings in big games TBH. Just as I give him full credit for the trophy wins to date under his coaching, unlike far too many IMO.

None of that changes my view that last year was dreadful in every respect and he as head coach shoulders a lot of responsibility for it, or that the excuses were and still are just that - excuses.

Does that include the Bev Risman Trophy?

Did we win the Lazenby cup this year?