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| Quote ="LS13"Because child abuse is in my opinion the worst crime imaginable .
There is proof that in places where the death penalty exists the number of people re-offending after servibg their 'sentence' is a big fat zero .'"
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| I’m probably going to lose a bit of popularity here but what the heck life’s for living and not avoiding confrontation!
Personally if the pedo was ill educated I’d make him listen to a recovered victim of paedophilia for two years in a cell so it can be drilled in what’s right and what’s wrong.
If the pedo was well educated he’d have a choice to either have castration on a regular basis or to be monitored.
However I wouldn’t put the death penalty pass them if it’s a natural death penalty rather than a man made death penalty. After all I don’t believe in the electric chair and lethal injection. Locate these sick minds to places they’ll more likely die from a tsunami or something is the best option for a death penalty so then its not man made and they killed by natural disaster.
I’m same with animals. We should let mother nature deal with them rather than people IMO.
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| Quote ="LS13"Because child abuse is in my opinion the worst crime imaginable .
'" Why?
What makes it worse than killing someone? or worse than someone raping an 85 year old woman?
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| Gateaux . You just mentioned another category of offender who should die . The rapist . The murderers however should be dealt with on merit . There seems to be a lot in the news of late regarding gang shootings over drugs etc. For those offences I'd say let them get on with it . They are doing society a favour by dealing with eachother .
I can't deny the FACT that my opinions on this subject may sound too severe , but if anyone were to harm a child of mine then I would like to see them suffer before they die . I certainly wouldn't want them to be back in society after a couple of years 'rehabilitation' .
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| Quote ="LS13"Gateaux . You just mentioned another category of offender who should die . The rapist . The murderers however should be dealt with on merit . There seems to be a lot in the news of late regarding gang shootings over drugs etc. For those offences I'd say let them get on with it . They are doing society a favour by dealing with eachother .
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Seriously what? Do you think all these people are evil because of what they do? Maybe they just want to get out of a life of poverty and that is the only way to do it in their areas.
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| Back on the subject though LS13:
Im 25 and my GF has just turned 21 this weekend. We started seeing each other when she was 16 and I was 20. A year earlier and that would obviously have been illegal. But as there will be 19 year olds sleeping with 15 year olds does this come under your murdering act? And if so why do they deserve the same as anyone who sleeps with a prepubescent child?
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Quote ="LS13"There seems to be a lot in the news of late regarding gang shootings over drugs etc. For those offences I'd say let them get on with it . They are doing society a favour by dealing with eachother. '"
You’ve opened Pandora’s box here I’m afraid but lets embrace it
Personally I think a majority of drugs should be legalised and alcohol should be banned because it only makes people angry. Now drug users only tend to get angry when they have a dependency on the illegal drug but can’t afford it so they go out robbing and that. Alcoholics only get angry when in drink.
Drink does not calm people down IMO.
American comedian Bill Hicks explains drugs in the best way - www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX1CvW38cHA
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Quote ="LS13"There seems to be a lot in the news of late regarding gang shootings over drugs etc. For those offences I'd say let them get on with it . They are doing society a favour by dealing with eachother. '"
You’ve opened Pandora’s box here I’m afraid but lets embrace it
Personally I think a majority of drugs should be legalised and alcohol should be banned because it only makes people angry. Now drug users only tend to get angry when they have a dependency on the illegal drug but can’t afford it so they go out robbing and that. Alcoholics only get angry when in drink.
Drink does not calm people down IMO.
American comedian Bill Hicks explains drugs in the best way - www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX1CvW38cHA
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"Im 25 and my GF has just turned 21 this weekend. We started seeing each other when she was 16 and I was 20. A year earlier and that would obviously have been illegal. But as there will be 19 year olds sleeping with 15 year olds does this come under your murdering act? And if so why do they deserve the same as anyone who sleeps with a prepubescent child?'"
This is getting a bit tad unfair now on LS13 and I would like you to stop please.
Personally I don’t think its even right for a 20 year old to go out with a 16 year old - I certainly wouldn’t. However Johnny I praise your relationships commitment and I hope to hear wedding bells sooner or later - commitment is what makes me smile in life. After all not all 20 year olds who go out with 16 year old are pervs and you certainly wasn’t. Its just that a subject like this divides a lot of us and would be best left to the side now IMO.
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| HH.. You mentioned that you were a couple and she was almost of age. That is different . It is still wrong though , and illegal .That would just deserve you getting a hiding from her dad if the family decided that BOTH your actions didn't warrant them reporting you to the relevant authorities There has been a lot of debate recently about the female teacherand a 15 yr old female pupil . They were a 'couple' , but that was still wrong and the teacher deservedly got a custodial . Any sex act with a minor is statutory rape according to the law .
Maybe I should have been more specific at the beginning of all this . I should have said that I meant the sickos that rape/tortue/kill the shildren .
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| Quote ="LS13"HH.. You mentioned that you were a couple and she was almost of age. That is different . It is still wrong though , and illegal .That would just deserve you getting a hiding from her dad if the family decided that BOTH your actions didn't warrant them reporting you to the relevant authorities
There has been a lot of debate recently about the female teacherand a 15 yr old female pupil . They were a 'couple' , but that was still wrong and the teacher deservedly got a custodial . Any sex act with a minor is statutory rape according to the law .
Maybe I should have been more specific at the beginning of all this . I should have said that I meant the sickos that rape/tortue/kill the shildren .'"
So wait a minute.
In LS13's world there's now a scale of offences for having sex with an U16 ?
And the family of the underage person gets to pick the punishment, ranging from "just" a beating to killing them ?
I'll stick to the legal system that we already have if you don't mind.
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| I don't know why anyone is continuing the discussion.
You can't educate pork.
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| So after all this am I really naughty boy for my opinions ?
Shall i sit in that corner >>>>.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................V
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"So wait a minute.
In LS13's world there's now a scale of offences for having sex with an U16 ?
And the family of the underage person gets to pick the punishment, ranging from "just" a beating to killing them ?
I'll stick to the legal system that we already have if you don't mind.'"
I think there is actually an age where the offense differes. It may be 13, I'm not sure though. the punishments are much more severe below this threashold.
LS13's justice system is funny though. You should have a tyre punctured for doing 71 on a motorway, or it crushed for running a red light.
Maybe you should have your TV taken if found guilty of robbery?
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| Well done leicester_rhino..You getting the idea
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| Quote ="LS13"There is proof that in places where the death penalty exists the number of people re-offending after servibg their 'sentence' is a big fat zero .'"
Where does the death penalty exist for child abuse then?
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| I don't know . You going to tell me ?
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| Quote ="LS13"I don't know . You going to tell me ?'"
You tell us.
Quote ="LS13"There is proof that in places where the death penalty exists the number of people re-offending after servibg their 'sentence' is a big fat zero .'"
What empirical evidence do you have that shows those who have abused children have not re offended where the death penalty is in place for such a crime.
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| Obsessed .
I was referring to the lack of re-offenders after they have been killed .
I was not referring to any specific type of offender .
HTH
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| Quote ="LS13"Obsessed'"
No. Just attempting to educate a clown.
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I was referring to the lack of re-offenders after they have been killed '"
Ya dont say
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I was not referring to any specific type of offender . '"
So what relevance does it have then?
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Yup, it helps prove the point raised by G1
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| I was replying to a question posted by Gateaux .. Here is her question ...
Quote Is there any proof that in places where the death penalty exists the number of people committing the offences is any less? (I am sure I read once that the figures were similar but not 100% sure)'"
Here it the reply ...
Quote LS13 wrote: There is proof that in places where the death penalty exists the number of people re-offending after servibg their 'sentence' is a big fat zero .'"
What is so difficult to understand about that for a person as highly educated as yourself ?
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| Quote ="LS13"I was replying to a question posted by Gateaux .. Here is her question ...
Here it the reply ...
What is so difficult to understand about that for a person as highly educated as yourself ?'"
So where is the proof then?
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| You need proof that people do not re-offend after they have been executed ?
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| Quote ="LS13"You need proof that people do not re-offend after they have been executed ?'"
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| Fook me this has turned up a bit since last night!...
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| Quote ="LS13"You need proof that people do not re-offend after they have been executed ?'"
No. I need proof that the convictions are 100% accurate and that crime figures have fallen in states where the death penalty is.
Then I want a valid argument of why vigilanteism is the way to go (in 2000 words).
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