There was no such things written about them at all, as everyone knew what skill they had, and they all ready had a reputation before they were thrown in. The difference is now we are going with players with nothing near the same rep.

McDermotts job was not so big at all, not as big as made out. All it took was proper planning, and to be fair to the coach, if you are not backed with what you want by the one making the decision, then it only makes his job that much harder.

I wish I could go back as far as 2000-04 and find some quotes. I recall plenty along the lines of Sinfield not being big enough or quick enough and McGuire having pace but nothing else and being a turnstile in defence. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

Gotcha I'm not sure what your second sentence means - could you re-phrase?

Sinfield not quick enough and McGuire not having anything except pace.....you don't have to look back to 2000-2004. People were coming out with that stuff 12-18 months ago.

The coach wanted one thing and his boss wanted another thing. Whether it would have worked better the coaches way, we won't know, but it certainly hasn't helped.

Throw a fully fit McGuire, Briscoe, Moon, Ward, Falloon and JJB into that team and the results will turn round.

We're going through a bad spell, with knocks etc. If this is our time to have them, i'd rather have it now than later. A transitional year, with a start being made harder than we could have expected.

McGuire was just a support player for a good 5 years. Everyone knows that. He had nothing else and was shocking defensively. Having said that, he was exciting to watch and new how to hit a gap.

Inventing scenarios which never happened ain't clever.

Peacock had a go at Mason and ended up wishing he hadn't. Did the same on the team bus after a drunken day out at a race meeting and got levelled by one of his own team mates.

What utter revisionist claptrap. If I had just slapped a guy & his teammate is stood in front of me holding my shirt I sure as hell would afford him a modicum of attention. They were stood toe to toe. That Tamou "never saw it coming" is more an indictment of his poor technique (after striking an opponent first) than anything else.

To say that it "was no different to king-hitting someone from behind" does you no favours. Comments like this only show that you are prepared to write anything, however bizarre, simply to push your agenda.

Ha! I was at the game and it was a blind side move by Mason. Furthermore, Peacock called hi a cheap shot merchant in print and, for a guy who is no stranger to litigation, Mason did nothing.

Some alleged events at Pontefract races have nothing to do with it. In any event, having witnessed the clientele at that particular venue, I wouldn't count on the veracity of their testimony.

You were quick to seize upon Mason's acts to suggest that Peacock was weak at the time and I certainly don't recall you taking any moral stance on the occurrence. You're full of it my friend and you know it!

He's also a sad individual

Very creative effort but patently incorrect.


Peacock has always been a whinger. He's got form for it on social media as I'm sure Schoey would testify.


You mean in the same way that Mason V Peacock has nothing to do with the Garbutt incident? Hypocrisy by plenty. Scruton by even more than that




Erm, you introduced Mason to the thread.
Please try to keep up.

Do you intend to PM me with any further youtube links of games for my information, which I actually attended in person, and which you clearly didn't?

William old boy, on this very board several years ago, you lauded Mason's actions and yet you condemn Garbutt. As I have already said, a very good attempt to obtain the moral high ground but you've been rumbled shag, the hypocrisy is all yours.

From the fact that you have re-floated back round the U bend like an All Bran based turd, I assume that you still haven't managed to get to 34 points or another way of permanently residing on Ramsey Street?

Not at all. But thanks for watching it.

Feel free to entertain the forum with your fantasy island memories.

On the topic of JP, I recall him displaying an overly aggressive attitude towards biff when he first joined Leeds. He was going out of his way to start it. Having a dig at Mason in a pre-season friendly and testimonial wasn't the only instance of his over-exuberance in that department at Leeds back in those earlier days.

His earlier exposure to the Carl Jennings sports science regime at Bradford Bulls may have conflicted somewhat with his exposure to a different sports science regime at Leeds. This change may have engendered a temporary shift in periods of rage until a new balance was achieved.

No problem. If you do change your mind, feel free to PM me more youtube links to games taking place down under which I may well have attended in person, which you didn't

I've sent you another link for your review AP.

Hope you like it.

Fantastic Island? Yes, I can see you playing the Tattoo role on Whit Sunday!

You seem to have some sort of obsession with Peacock, did he turn you down Shag?

Yes, I attended that game.

Tri Nations 2006 - I attended the loss to NZ in Christchurch, the win against Aus in Sydney and the loss against Aus in Brisbane. I didn't attend the loss to NZ in Wellington when Senior cried his eyes out because a waterboy squirted some water at him.

You get about a bit from Wetherby don't you pal.

I've got an aversion to postcodes LS10, LS11, LS14, LS15 and any postcode ≥ LS18 (which would include Wetherby).

HTH

Why live there then? haha

Thank goodness, I wouldn't want you living anywhere near me.

If you live near Wetherby, you are in his area. Boston Spa is on high alert for Trolling!

There's an ignore option, you can use it. Only problem is when everyone else is quoting him I can still see everything he posts.