Here's the unofficial league table for the major Salary Cap infringers:

1 - Wigan 6 Pts
2 - Bradford 4 Pts
=3 - St Helens 2 Pts
=3 - Hull 2 Pts
=3 - Wakefield 2 Pts
=3 - Halifax 2 Pts




I've still to see an official list or explanation issued by the Leeds club although I fully accept they may have done and I've simply missed it.

Following on from Danny Buderus becoming number 720 in 2009, we've presumably seen Brett Delaney become 721 and Greg Eastwood 722 based on making ten 1st Grade Appearances.

Next in line would appear to be Pitts (9), Ambler (7), Clarkson (7) and McShane (5)

Its a shame he never played for us!

If you were to select a Leeds SL Era (All Comps) 1-17 based on the number of appearances in each position it would look something like this:

Full-Back - Brent Webb (94)
Wing - Mark Calderwood (133)
Centre - Chev Walker (125)
Centre - Keith Senior (331)
Wing - Scott Donald (135)
Stand Off - Danny McGuire (16icon_cool.gif
Scrum Half - Rob Burrow (206)
Prop - Ryan Bailey (131)
Hooker - Matt Diskin (220)
Prop - Barrie McDermott (190)
Second Row - Adrian Morley (114)
Second Row - Jamie Jones-Buchanan (112)
Loose Forward - Kevin Sinfield (214)
Subs:
Utility - Willie Poching (89)
Second Row - Ali Lauitiiti (10icon_cool.gif
Prop - Nick Scruton (61)
Prop - Jamie Mathiou (100)

Peacockan't be far off that list having been signed at the same time as Donald, though a number of his starts will have been at 2nd row too

The list is purely numerically based (the fact that Jamie Mathiou made the 17 is ample evidence of that) and a player like Nick Scruton made the bench only because Barrie McDermott (who had more substitute appearances than Scruton) had already made the run on side.

You draw a line in the sand and that is what you come with.



I'm away from the stats machine at the moment but IIRC Peacock has only fairly recently passed 100 starts for Leeds (and as you say some of those will have been in the back row)

Now that surprises me!

Shocked that Francis Cummins isn't in that team but then I forgot how many times he played full-back and centre, and even stand-off on occasion, as opposed to the wing.

The table covers the 483 Leeds games of the SL Era (1996 - Date)

Here are the Starting Full-Back Totals:

Webb (Brent) - 94
Mathers (Richard) - 87
Cummins (Francis) - 81
Harris (Iestyn) - 56
St Hilaire (Marcus) - 31
Connolly (Gary) - 29
Smith (Lee) - 29
Gibson (Damian) - 23
Tansey (Jordan) - 13
Gibbons (Anthony) - 9
Mullins (Brett) - 7
Walker (Ben) - 6
Holroyd (Graham) - 5
Maher (Lee) - 4
Jones-Bishop (Ben) - 3
Tait (Alan) - 3
Blackmore (Richie) 1
McGuire (Danny) - 1
Watkins (Kallum) - 1

Note: The McGuire appearance is not official as IIRC he was named on the wing with Mathers at full-back (Wigan FE Play-Off game 2003) but as my records are purely unofficial I allow myself some discretion on the odd occasion where it's apparent that the starting on field formation differs from the published team-sheet. (Ian Kirke being named at hooker while Kevin Sinfield took the acting half duties being another rare example.)



Yes Cummins suffered from his versatility in relation to both wingers selected as they both exclusively started there.

Cummins' totals by position:

Full-Back - 81
Wing - 124
Centre - 46
Stand Off - 4

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Just to further clarify the table is drawn up by overall position (full-back, wing, centre, stand off, scrum half, prop, second row, loose) rather than splitting right and left side, open and blindside.

well that's just lazy

On the contrary that would have taken less effort to compile.

Full-Back - Brent Webb (94)
Right Wing - Mark Calderwood (116)
Right Centre - Chev Walker (113)
Left Centre - Keith Senior (321)
Left Wing - Francis Cummins (105)
Stand Off - Danny McGuire (16icon_cool.gif
Scrum Half - Rob Burrow (206)
Openside Prop - Ryan Bailey (99)
Hooker - Matt Diskin (220)
Blindside Prop - Barrie McDermott (190)
Right Second Row - Jamie Jones-Buchanan (97)
Left Second Row - Anthony Farrell (96)
Loose Forward - Kevin Sinfield (214)
Subs:
Ali Lauitiiti (10icon_cool.gif
Jamie Mathiou (100)
Willie Poching (89)
*Nick Scruton (61)

(*Substitutes that would have made the bench before Scruton had they not already been in the run on side: McDermott (7icon_cool.gif, Bailey (76), Burrow (73), Jones-Buchanan (62)

Next opponents - Warrington

Leeds SL Era Record V Warrington

All Comps: All Fixtures
Played 36, Won 26, Drawn 1, Lost 9, Pts For 1030, Pts Agst 744 ..... Avg Scr (29-21) ..... 74%

All Comps: In Warrington
Played 17, Won 11, Drawn 0, Lost 6, Pts For 462, Pts Agst 395 ..... Avg Scr (27-23) ..... 65%

All Comps: Halliwell Jones
Played 8, Won 5, Drawn 0, Lost 3, Pts For 244, Pts Agst 179 ..... Avg Scr (31-22) ..... 60%

SL Reg Rds:
Played 33, Won 24, Drawn 1, Lost 8, Pts For 957, Pts Agst 694 ..... Avg Scr (29-21) ..... 74%

SL Reg Rds: In Warrington
Played 16, Won 10, Drawn 0, Lost 6, Pts For 432, Pts Agst 385 ..... Avg Scr (27-24) ..... 63%

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Leeds' Biggest Win: 54 - 16 (Headingley - 1st September 2006)
Leeds' Biggest Win In Warrington: 52 - 10 (Halliwell Jones - 15th April 2007)
Leeds' Widest Winning Margin: As Above 2nd Top
Leeds' Widest Winning Margin In Warrington: As Above 2nd Top
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Warrington's Biggest Win: 44 - 10 (Wilderspool - 16th April 2000)
..............................: 44 - 16 (Halliwell Jones - 1st May 2006)
Warrington's Biggest Win In Warrington: As Above
Warrington's Widest Winning Margin: As Above Top
Warrington's Widest Winning Margin In Warrington: As Above Top


Brian McClennan's Leeds record V Warrington: (All Comps)
Played 5, Won 4, Drawn 0, Lost 1, Pts For 114, Pts Agst 86, Avg Scr (23-17), 80%

Brian McClennan's Leeds record At The Halliwell Jones: (All Comps)
Played 2, Won 1, Drawn 0, Lost 1, Pts For 32, Pts Agst 36, Avg Scr (16-18 ), 50%

Tony Smith's Warrington record V Leeds:
Played 3, Won 0, Drawn 0, Lost 3, Pts For 52, Pts Agst 70, Avg Scr (17-23), 0%



Leeds W/D/L record V Warrington (All Comps) in sequence:

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Leeds W/D/L record V Warrington (All Comps) In Warrington in sequence:

W =#FF0000L W W W =#FF0000L L W W W W W =#FF0000L=#FF0000 L W =#FF0000L W

Leeds W/D/L record (All Comps) At The Halliwell Jones in sequence:
W W W =#FF0000L L W =#FF0000L W

Is that with or without poetic licence on the starting positions?

With.

I commented recently on Leeds players passing the 8,000 appearances mark of the SL Era. Over those appearances the number of times I have purposefully deviated away from what appeared to be the 'official' team-sheet positionally I could probably count on the fingers of both hands.

That said I have no access to 'official' team-sheets at all so use a variety of sources each week to formulate the team selected.

Readers, as always (and I've never stated otherwise) need to bear in mind the 'unofficial' nature of my contributions to this thread.

Good enough for me. BTW come CC semi weekend I'll be in Barkston visiting family. Didn't plan too well but hey ho, the Beeb will be showing it.

Appears a nice village. Only seen it while passing through mind, usually on the way to Cottesmore for a spot of 'bird' watching. Barkston Heath is a bit too quiet for my aviation tastes although the weekend gliders are different and still fascinating to watch.

CC semi weekend I'm in Dublin........ joke.

When was Bailey's last try tvoc? I remember him scoring against Cas and the Bulls in 06.

Then I'm pretty sure he got over the line against Hull but both were ruled out a couple of years ag.

According to [url=http://www.slstats.org/p315/Ryan+Bailey.html#Year_2007this[/url he scored 3 in 2007, the last [iBEING[/i against Wakefield

He's back. I little burnt on top but otherwise unscathed.

Ryan Bailey has scored 9 tries for Leeds in his 214 Appearances:

13-Mar-04 ….. CC ….. St Helens
08-Oct-04 ….. PO ….. Wigan
07-Aug-05 ….. SL ….. Leigh
07-Aug-05 ….. SL ….. Leigh
05-Mar-06 ….. SL ….. Castleford
26-May-06 ….. SL ….. Bradford
16-Feb-07 ….. SL ….. Hull
16-Mar-07 ….. SL ….. Wakefield
20-Jul-07 ….. SL ….. Wakefield




I think you've got your Hull and Hull KR's mixed up there. The game you are recalling was the opening SL game of 2008 (although technically a Round 4 fixture) V Hull KR at Headingley. The first was ruled out for a double movement and the second as he was adjudged held up. The video referee was Phil Bentham.

his naked run of shame is slowly becoming an annual event

I don't think he has anything to be ashamed about. In fact I think he quite enjoys it.

He had no need to pass to McGuire last Saturday.

There is a section of the "official matchday magazine" that shows when each player scored their lasttry and who it was against

Time for a update:

Up to and including Round 20: SL Regular Rounds Top 4

1 - St Helens- Played 394, Won 287, Drawn 8, Lost 99, Pts For 12859, Pts Agst 7788, (Avg Score 33-20), Comp Points 580 (After Salary cap Deductions)

2 - Leeds - Played 394, Won 266, Drawn 10, Lost 118, Pts For 11773, Pts Agst 8023, (Avg Score 30-20), Comp Points 542

3 - Bradford - Played 394, Won 266, Drawn 12, Lost 116, Pts For 12113, Pts Agst 7769, (Avg Score 31-20), Comp Points 540 (After Salary cap Deductions)

4 - Wigan - Played 394, Won 262, Drawn 15, Lost 117, Pts For 11458, Pts Agst 7307, (Avg Score 29-19), Comp Points 533 (After Salary cap Deductions)

With St Helens, Leeds and Wigan all picking up 4 points from the 6 on offer (Bradford 3 defeats) since the top table was produced we now see Leeds (for the 1st time in the SL Era) move into 2nd place on the table using competition points to determine the order.

Still quite a gap to top spot isn't there

And it's widened so far this season but honestly who cares right now, Leeds are ahead of Bradford on the table for the first time in 15 seasons.

Now time to forge ahead, (overcome Bradford's Salary Cap points deduction) and remove any lingering doubts over the validity of the 2nd spot on the table.

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Next opponents - Hull KR

Leeds SL Era Record V Hull KR

All Comps: All Fixtures
Played 10, Won 8, Drawn 0, Lost 2, Pts For 269, Pts Agst 137 ..... Avg Scr (27-14) ..... 80%

All Comps: Craven Park:
Played 4, Won 3, Drawn 0, Lost 1, Pts For 93, Pts Agst 64 ..... Avg Scr (23-16) ..... 75%

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Leeds' Biggest Win: 44 - 4 (Headingley - 22nd Feb 2002 - Challenge Cup)
......................: 44 - 8 (Headingley - 18th September 2009 - SL Play-Offs)
Leeds' Biggest Win At Craven Park: 36 - 22 (25th April 2008 - SL Reg Rds)
Leeds' Widest Winning Margin: As above (Top)
Leeds' Widest Winning Margin At Craven Park: As Above (3rd Top)
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Hull KR's Biggest Win: 22 - 20 (Craven Park - 10th March 2007)
Hull KR's Biggest Win At Craven Park: (As Above)
Hull KR's Widest Winning Margin: 17 - 10 (Headingley - 19th March 2010 - SL Reg Rds)
Hull KR's Widest Winning Margin At Craven Park: As above (Top)


Brian McClennan's Leeds record V Hull KR: (All Comps)
Played 6, Won 5, Drawn 0, Lost 1, Pts For 153, Pts Agst 83, Avg Scr (26-14), 83%

Brian McClennan's Leeds have never lost on a visit to the city of Hull - 5 from 5

Justin Morgan's Hull KR record V Leeds: (All Comps)
Played 9, Won 2, Drawn 0, Lost 7, Pts For 133, Pts Agst 225, Avg Scr (15-25), 22%

(In addition to the above Justin Morgan was also the Toulouse coach in the CC-SF played on the 31st July 2005, which Leeds Won 56-1icon_cool.gif

Leeds W/D/L record V Hull KR in sequence:

W =#FF0000L W W W W W W W =#FF0000L

Danny McGuire's next Leeds Start will be his 200th for the club.

He will become the 6th Leeds player to reach the mark in the SL Era following:

1 - Keith Senior - 338
2 - Kevin Sinfield - 327
3 - Francis Cummins - 255
4 - Matt Diskin - 222
5 - Rob Burrow - 212

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Three Leeds players are closing in on their 100th Appearance for the club:

98 - Ian Kirke
97 - Brent Webb
95 - Carl Ablett