It's improved it slightly for me. The bus now stops nearer the top of the ginnal.

I prefer sports venues to have a uniqueness about them, be it aesthetics, atmosphere or whatever.

I've been to plenty of football and RL grounds that look like they've all come from the same mould. Places like the JJB, Keepmoat etc might have all of the facilities, but they look like they've been designed by an accountant using nothing more than an IKEA catalogue for inspiration. The JJB might be clean and comfortable but it's just, well, dull. (And in terms of accessibility, no better if not worse than Headingley).

There is no other ground in world like Headingley and to boot, there is plenty to do around it. I don't think that there is another RL ground with as many pubs, bars and places to eat within such close proximity.

the number of toilets available at the Galpharm is shocking

Can a roof not be put on it at least though?

IMO Leeds should get a completely new ground somewhere else, crowds would go up and RL stadia looks alot better. It could be done along with the RFL and a bigt sponser and Leeds council and could be shared with England RL

What a load of tosh!

The owner of the team owns the ground. Ask the pie eaters if that is important. He has a site that he is tied in to with the cricket side (and has invested massive amounts in) so he can't redevelop the site for other purposes.

Yes the ground needs to be updated and probably the SS is the place to start but that shouldn't be a problem. From memory, the carnegie stand cost £7M when building was still expensive so can't believe a new SS would cost any more - it really doesn't need to be anything more than it is now - just safe.

Headingley is where we are and we will be staying - personally I have no problems parking in Headingley, it usually takes about 10 minutes to get out. Again, ask the pie eaters how long it takes to get away from the out of town retail park.

Serious question,

If your team had considered developing Central Park with four new stands would you have been happy if they then changed their minds and moved to the JJB instead ?

Wheres the water table in Headingley ?

Could be fun when it rains.

We did.

We built the Whitbread / Boston Stand that went almost 100% over budget, due to the "unforseen" mine workings



Plans were drawn up to completely redevelop the other three sides.

Moving to the JJB was far more cost effective as I suspect it would be than redeveloping Headingley.

As for congestion, I don't have a problem at Wigan but I know where to park, just as most of you do at Headingley.

Wouldn't fancy sharing that little nugget with us would you??

No problem I'll pm you later or tomorrow.

What time do you normally get there and what route do you normally take to get there.

If it's a friday night usually around 7ish.

Would you be happy with giant supporting pillars overshadowing your back garden?

I do not claim any insider knowledge, but I cannot see how moving from HQ is feasible. The current facility is too heavily invested in and I struggle to see how we could dispose of it and recover that investment. The idea of selling it to Yorkshire Cricket doesn't seem likely at anything approaching full value for us. What would they do with the ground? A car park and the space to redevelop facilities in the North stand? The Carnegie Stand would be no use to them as far as I can see.

The other thing that I think has been glossed over by some on this thread is how difficult funding is to secure at the moment. The builder might be on their ar$es and willing to work at relatively low cost, but they still need to be paid, even if they are our "house" firm. Funding is hard to find for capital projects and interest rates are not that low either. I also suspect that the payback period that Mr H will look to is likely to be determined by the term of the financing he can secure.

TOMCAT - there's a blast from the past!

I view it the same way. There probably was a time where moving away would have been cheaper and in the long run probably better for everyone but the investment in recent years clearly shows its not on the agenda any more.

By the way you've got the old P-51/F-14 a bit muddled

maybe MR H will come up with the old leeds united scheme ,the one they did for the new stand at E R .Did'nt they have a 25 year bond, the bond holder,s paid x amount and held their place in the stand for that time at much reduced rates?
we know that leeds utd crashed financially,but i do think gary will go to the fans to stump up in some way

Completely the wrong point in the current economic cycle to start asking people to pay for things 25 years up front. Plus who is to say that in 25 years time the current occupiers of the South Stand aren't going to want to be somewhere else in the ground, maybe somewhere their kids can get a decent unobstructed view of the game for example.

Tanking sir, tanking. And pumps, really big ones.

Just because you're no good at making structures to hold back lots of water...

Like it or not the new South Stand will have seats. Will Have terracing as well but will be very much like the Carnegie Stand.

I'd have made it all seater.

I check in from time to time, just don't post so much these days.

Ref Aircraft recognition skills, well done. I just fancied a change and there are more Mustangs Flying than Tomcats these days

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p.s. It's a TF51

,(they have 2 seats and two sets of controls & my Lad is in the back seat in that photo)

Au contraire, I would certainly consider digging a ten foot deep rugby pitch sized hole, I just wouldn't then lay a rugby pitch at the bottom of it.

That and the fact that my wife wouldn't let me



And the bloody UV filter broke this summer...

[iAircraft geek mode[/i Looks a late model Mustang - lovely looking planes. Is the F-14 long since history then? (I was into military stuff until the late 80s but not a clue what are the current warplanes).

I have heard (unsubstantiated) word that the original plans for the South Stand was a 2 tier affair cantilevered out the rear car park with an upper seated tier and a lower standing terrace BUT that this has since been abandoned on cost and the new stand will be terrace only.



Maybe this is a phased construction to allow the seated tier to be added later. Which would make sense in these dire financial times.

Quote ="Andy Gilder"Completely the wrong point in the current economic cycle to start asking people to pay for things 25 years up front. Plus who is to say that in 25 years time the current occupiers of the South Stand aren't going to want to be somewhere else in the ground, maybe somewhere their kids can get a decent unobstructed view of the game for example.'" Whilst not disagreeing the attached article from our fellow occupiers of Headingley (www.yorkshireccc.com/debenture_scheme/index.html) reveals an investment of 75 years before returning the original investment at face value & without the payment fo any interest!! Anyone got a spare £3K or £6K they don't want? Oh & you still have to pay the going rate for membership too and buy the test match tickets!! So essentially Yorkshire is saying give us the money & we'll put your name on a seat.

Quote ="Andy Gilder"Completely the wrong point in the current economic cycle to start asking people to pay for things 25 years up front. Plus who is to say that in 25 years time the current occupiers of the South Stand aren't going to want to be somewhere else in the ground, maybe somewhere their kids can get a decent unobstructed view of the game for example.'" Whilst not disagreeing the attached article from our fellow occupiers of Headingley (www.yorkshireccc.com/debenture_scheme/index.html) reveals an investment of 75 years before returning the original investment at face value & without the payment fo any interest!! Anyone got a spare £3K or £6K they don't want? Oh & you still have to pay the going rate for membership too and buy the test match tickets!! So essentially Yorkshire is saying give us the money & we'll put your name on a seat.

Quote ="Old Feller"Whilst not disagreeing the attached article from our fellow occupiers of Headingley (www.yorkshireccc.com/debenture_scheme/index.html) reveals an investment of 75 years before returning the original investment at face value & without the payment fo any interest!! Anyone got a spare £3K or £6K they don't want? Oh & you still have to pay the going rate for membership too and buy the test match tickets!! So essentially Yorkshire is saying give us the money & we'll put your name on a seat.'" Considering the average age of a Yorkshire member must be well over 50 its pretty unlikely they'd see the 75 years out.

Quote ="Old Feller"Whilst not disagreeing the attached article from our fellow occupiers of Headingley (www.yorkshireccc.com/debenture_scheme/index.html) reveals an investment of 75 years before returning the original investment at face value & without the payment fo any interest!! Anyone got a spare £3K or £6K they don't want? Oh & you still have to pay the going rate for membership too and buy the test match tickets!! So essentially Yorkshire is saying give us the money & we'll put your name on a seat.'" Considering the average age of a Yorkshire member must be well over 50 its pretty unlikely they'd see the 75 years out.

I can think of one poster who earns so much he could probably fund redevelopment of the entire ground