Have you used dried pasta, glued to it to make a picture? That's the best way. Nothing says "I care" like some dried macaroni.

I used my own Man glue, the Matt will love it.

There's no emoticon that nods approvingly, but rest assured, that's what I'm doing right now.

No they haven't. They've paid to watch Leeds RLFC and its' constituent players tackle a designated opponent on any given matchday. They paid in the hope that they will see their heroes victorious, that they will be entertained and that their lives can be enriched by the successes their idols achieve.


If people have contributed to the club for the same length of time as I have, or longer, they will have done so for a very large proportion of their time whilst they club has failed the main criteria I set out in my previous paragraph. Matt, and other players who have been slighted by such pitiful testimonial attendances, have played an integral role in turning that around. They're provided those cherished memories you talk of and have provided the success many of us have craved for so long. They've done so by subscribing to an ethos of club first and they've done so by remaining within a set-up where they earn less than they could do by moving on, as some of their peers have.

Yes, you can find reasons and excuses to justify a "supporters" failure to appreciate players like this but, IMO, its' frankly unforgivable.

Let me tell you something about our supporters. They will find reasons not to turn out for players like Matt, JJB and Sinfield etc but they flocked in number to Cummins testimonial match so they could see departed "hero" Iestyn Harris, who had deserted the club to earn big bucks with the WRU, come on to the pitch at half time and wave to them.

Our fan base is pathetic.

Most apt thing you have written yet on this subject.

You do realize that you sound ridiculous don't you?

Of course you will be at the Crusaders game in a couple of weeks to support the lads wont you?

As ridiculous as being unable to understand the difference between being and been ?

Nope. I will be supporting the lads but from the comfort of my armchair. In case you missed it first time, how does my attendance at an away match reward the sacrifices our players have made to provide us fans with an unparallelled level of success?

By buying a ticket and contributing towards their wages?

Since when does away games contribute to the away teams wages?

Desperation response duely noted.

If the ticket is bought through the Leeds ticket office, we get 10% of the ticket cost.

HTH

Please can you give a link to where it says this goes towards the wage bill.

If I don't attend a specific number of away games do the players get paid less?

Didn't think so.

Its' a non point. Gotcha can make a fool of himself without any other idiots helping hand.

As desperate as quoting someone and editing their posts?

That is what I call being (note, not been) really desperate.

Its all sales revenue which comes to the club, no doubt some of the ticket sales will go towards the wage bill at the end of the day.

I'm not trying to help him at all, just pointing out that going to away games does help to fund the wage bill.

The club have a set wage structure and a salary cap to adhere to. revenue from commissions on tickets sold for away fixtures will be completely irrelevant to this completely irrelevant point Gotcha is making.

Still your assistance has helped demonstrate how pointless the point is so thanks.

Unless, of course, you're privy to a players contract and it contains a clause that increases/decreases salary based upon my attendance at away games then I will happily concede the silly non point you have embarrassingly latched on to.

But if the players care more about the club than the cash and it's all about the memories as they are so keen on reiterating, what's the problem?

The problem with what? Me not attending a specific away game? No problem at all.

Maybe now we're not so reliant on commission received, but if the club was in a dire state we would be.



I'll get Frosties to root through a few more player's bins to see if they threw out any of their contracts

I don`t think it matters if it was a testimonial or not to be honest. We were playing supposedly our biggest rivals the team we love to hate. We got over 8k for the Wakey game and without wanting to disrespect Wakefield. I personally would have thought we would get more fans turning out to watch us play Bradford. The fact it was for Disko`s benefit should have increased that number as it was going to a good cause. 8 to 10k should have been at the game considering the players on show. Let`s face it not many of us knew Webb, Bailey and Orford would withdraw before kick off so the teams were looking pretty strong I would say. Rant over.

Care to explain where I have made reference to away matches and salary cap?

Thought not. I make reference only to a self righteous fool who feels that because he goes to a meaningless friendly match he is somehow a better supporter than anyone else, even though he fails to support that said team to most away matches.

What you have demonstrated is that you prefer to spend your money as you choose, by contibuting to Matt Diskins pension fund. Fair play to you. But you spoilt that by trying to make out that everybody who supports the club should have done the same, or they are in the wrong. Not affording those same fans the choice that you had, to with their money what they choose.

With not attending the testimonial.

If they care more about trophies than cash, then cheering them on at OT weill mean more to them than paying to watch a friendly. And buying season tickets/shirts etc to fund a top squad will mean more to them than cash from a testimonial. So you shouldn't be so upset.

Unless of course that's PR speak and they're actually jolly well paid for what they do?

The decision whether to attend testimonial games is down to individual choice. However, those who choose not to go shouldn't be too critical when the likes of Lee Smith decide to go to union to increase their financial security in later life.

Oh I am sure Matt is very pleased with the attendance. I doubt very much he would grumble. I am sure you're right that we have the type of players who will take more from yet another great night at Old Trafford than they would care about the attendance at their testimonial match. Then again, we have players of the right sort of character, not the kind of players who would bet on their own team to lose.

But that misses the point. Its' about us, not them and its' about us rewarding the loyalty they have shown that has benefited us in our support for this great team.


They are jolly well paid but I can assure you its' actually quite factual that the club have a strict pay grade that they do not exceed for any player. That every player can climb the grade and if they reach the correct value to the team they will be paid at the top of the grade. That players who remain in this system could earn more by moving on. That players come into this system and earn less than they could by signing elsewhere.

Certainly. I don't even have to trawl back over your posts. You very helpfully repeat the point in your next sentence. Genius.

By the way, I asked you how you know I don't attend most away matches. You haven't answered. I won't allow you to de-rail the thread with this non point any longer so I will clarify. I attend many away matches on Saturdays and Sundays, I attend many away matches in Yorkshire, I do not attend away matches beyond the County on Friday nights if they are televised. I haven't done the math but i suspect that doesn't not account for MOST of the away matches. HTH. Now, back to your failure to support Matts' testimonial.

They all had the choice. They had the choice to do the right thing or the wrong thing. Most of our pathetic fan base chose the wrong thing.