if the 3 losses were against the lower placed teams im sure leeds would be much more concerned. Losses to catalan wigan and warrington spread over a few extra rounds with wins against toulouse and salford say would look way better.

I'm sure the management know what they want and will be looking out there.

Absolutely no point changing the coach now.
He is moving to DOR, so the club must be working on a plan.
But I fear a long, hard, fruitless season.
And instead of a new coach coming in with us on the up, he will be coming in to a rebuilding job.

Oh for a number of years yes, his success over that period supported my thoughts on him at that time. In his latter days I could see it was time for him to go, and on top of hearing what an unpleasant individual he could be.

It's a long drawn out affair is this rebuilding job isn't it. What are we in now, year 5 of the transition?

Whats this new fangled idea of all these teams playing tonight with 2 starting props and 2 on the bench. Do these teams have a different DNA to Leeds'?

Goes at season end for me if he doesn’t deliver top 3 finish. The players were so poor last night, they did constant brain farts and that wasn’t Agars fault to be fair. But we’ve got to improve and fast

Errors are always down to individuals. But when you see a constant pattern of repeated mistakes, like with the lack of discipline, then it starts to be more a coaching issue.

So, I'm sure the search for a head coach is extensive and ongoing. It's not exactly going to be messaged out that we're desperately looking for a head coach, because what message does that send to the fans and players. Getting rid of Agar is not a viable option without a replacement lined up. Sacking Agar means he leaves the club, and Long is probably in charge in the meantime. I don't think that would change anything for the better.

For the context of 3 games, we've been without 3 of our first choice back 3, so lack impact out wide. We've also lost our whole 2nd row.
In the Warrington game we made a good first of it and just came up short. At Wigan the performance fell off a cliff when Tet and Prior went off. Against Catalan, we made bucket loads of meters, but didn't have strike out wide to execute.

Get more games under the belt for combinations to click, get some front line players back in the team and see how we are after 10 games or so.

Looking more like 85-86 through to 1998, I’m not one for just wanting to throw youngsters in, but its more and more apparent that the likes of Briscoe Smith and a few others are simply past it by some distance or not good enough. Lets just give the likes of Max Simpson Broadbent oconnor a bit of a run of games.

The defensive performances have been inconsistent and, quite frankly, the attacking play is woeful.
The performance against Wigan was, in parts, a carbon copy of last season’s trip to Saints. Some different players, same powder puff tackling! I’m sorry, he’s a nice guy but, not up to this job.
As for who comes in, the club could and should find a suitable replacement, if they have the will to do so. Asking who it should be on here is like asking what kind of Summer we’re going to have.

Peoople probably overrated the playing squad too though. How can we look so short of props already with just one injury at prop (in someone who has been injured more than played), and even with Newman and Fusitua back we still won’t create anything on left edge. The less said about Hookers the better. We had the back lines up to go though Sezer, then Leeming and Dwyer scoot down blind alleys. Literally school boy stuff…..

Only time we looked dangerous was when they scooted out of dh. We don't have the impact in the forwards to create the momentum

The backs would look good behind a dominant pack.

we had enough good position against Catalans to win and conspired to throw the ball away numerous times

One thing I'd like to see is the journalists actually asking Agar hard questions in his press conferences. I know they all want access, but if its at the expense of soft-soap nonsense its a waste of time. It doesn't need to be aggressive, but asking him what he's actually going to do to fix things would seem to be standard. Instead we get 'another hard day Rich?' or throwing him questions which can be used to excuse rubbish without any pressing as to what 'watching the tapes' will achieve that hasn't already happened, why poor-performing players keep getting picked etc.

We want an across the board double - Bielsa out / Agar out !!!

To be fair United are at the point where they had to do something or face the real risk of relegation. We're not at that stage, and we're not at risk of it. The risk for us is another season treading water followed by yet another 'rebuild' next year. All anyone asked for before the season started was a sign we would be much more competitive this season. This is not a season in isolation - its Agar's third full season and we've made plenty of signings during that time but don't seem to be consistently moving forward.

I'm not clamouring for Agar to be sacked today, but I also don't want to see another McDermott-style fiasco where we've got a dead coach walking for far too long. Its up to Agar to sort this out.

My gut feeling is he's too conservative and in some cases blind to self-inflicted selection issues. His comments on Dwyer about sum that up - he keeps picking him despite the fact he has kindergarten standard passing because he might be able to create a gap. Never mind making it almost impossible for the rest of the team to function, just keep hoping Dwyer will 'do something'. Is that coaching??

The equivalent in junior rugby of 'give it to the big kid'. Hope he grabs a couple then we can gloss over how poor the rest of the game was.

Don't watch too many games these days, but I'm having to go back a long way to think of a less attractive Leeds team than this one.

You don’t have to go too far back we were awful for the majority of the 2018 and 2019 seasons

Less said about 2016 the better.

A lot can change look at Hull, they looked dreadful against Saints, fast forward a week…

Last year our top two try scorers were hookers, which pretty much sums up how lacking in width we were. Bring in two new halfbacks and we're still not looking at all dangerous or playing with enough width - partly because both centres and the full back apparently have no idea how to pass the ball.

DHM is right - we're horrible to watch. Warrington was entertaining but mainly because it was backs against the wall stuff. Even our highlights are generally uninspiring.

You don't win Grand Finals from 5th position either apparently but hey guess what?

Every club he’s been out there has been an Agar out thread. Wonder why that is.

The way we currently play reminds me of Saints under Cunningham. It needs to improve and quickly.

Dont think we are that bad, Cas under Radford look more like it.