Too busy playing amateur stuff then to watch ...... and even though I played 95% of games on the wing (I'm not daft), can't remember any game where I didn't cop for (and throw!) a few digs. Was always part of the game, but the one thing that really annoys me in todays SL is refs (and whatever those ornaments running up & down the touchline nowadays are called) not using the sinbin enough. Putting players on report is a complete cop-out, and has no effect on the game where the offence has been committed.

A simple "Sit down, calm down, and come back on when you get your head straight" was the order of the day. It was never a full 10 minutes either - Touchie would decide when you had calmed down enough. The threat of it kept most players to no more than a scuffle to dominate a tackle, then get on with the play ... and refs let that go. Suppose they didn't get scrutinised with 20 slow motion replays then though, even at top level.

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The same Ryan Bailey who wasn't sent off against Catalans for punching Blanch?

But was sin binned and subsequently charged with a harsher offence than Briers and received a ban. Bailey's punch being retaliation in addition.

True, but don't forget that Leeds did fire up and fire in on the next Warrington possession ... and were promptly penalised for offside by you know who before they could make contact.

I think we should move on from the briers incident , what concerns me is the fact we were outplayed for most of the match by a very good wire team.
I still can't believe we are without a recognized hooker, yes I know burrow and sinfield are fulfilling the roles extremely well but I still think it weakens the team.
Having looked at the recording of the wire game twice I can see some glaring defence faults around the play the ball area. This occurred virtually throughout the whole match.
Roll on Friday we have got a chance to put things right , I can only imagine the outcry if we are well beaten on Friday .
If we shut down Roby then we will win, let him run quickly from the ptb and we will struggle, over to you Brian Mac.

I realise that & acknowledge the inconsistency but I didn't hear Bailey, in his erudite interview with Barrie Mac on Sky last week, complaining about being let off lighter than Wardle from Hudds.

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i'm led to believe we have a hooker signed for next season.
whether he's of sufficient quality is another matter

one number 9's name constantly keeps getting mentioned for next season up at stanningley and that is paul aiton from wakefield

thats what i'm hearing. also we are after kirmond but warrington and there melbourne type salary cap may put paid to him

i wonder if that is why kath has gone to wakey so she can bin all the wolves offers and say they never arrived?

This may well signal that Wakefield Trinity Wildcats could become a temporary feeder club for the Leeds Rhinos until such a time that the most valuable assets have been stripped and the 'partnership' is deemed as no longer relevant.

It is to be hoped that the Wakefield club can survive the fallout.

Bramley RLFC - RIP.

But they are SL whipping boy rabble.

how many chances do wakefield want? i love going there, wakefield v leeds in front of a good crowd is brilliant.
however year after year there is yet another financial crisis there

Makes no odds if we sign a hooker. McDermott will need to find a way to squeeze McGuire, Sinfield, Burrow and Sutcliffe into the team so said hooker may not actually get selected.

And if he does, too many chiefs, not enough indians.

Sooner rather than later, for the good of the team one of the 'holy trinity' will have to be moved on.

Mcguire for me.

Agreed.

Anyone know how long burrow and mcguire have left on their contracts?

Id agree one would have to move on very soon as ward and sutcliffe are ready now and for the good of the team longer term it needs to be done.Burrow looks like he offers far more to us with his virsitlity alone so would certainly be the one of the two i would look to keep.it would be with a heavy heart but i would move Mcguire on.

Question is,does Mac have the balls to shoot bambi?

For me it was either McGuire or Burrow that needed to move out. I felt that would have been Burrow but after McGuire injury I fear it will be him who makes way. On Aiton I was always impressed with him but the Wakey fans don't appear to rate him that much. Would be delighted to get Kirmond though. I also think McShane should have played this Friday.

It sounds sh*tty us saying it because of what mcguire has done for us over the years and the service he has given, but this is the reality. It's the old saying 'no room for sentiment in sport'. Everything mcguire offers is offered by a combination of other players in the team. It's getting to the stage where, because of the dynamics of the team and the players coming in, it's going to be to the detriment of the team long term to keep him in.

Plus Mcguire, sinfield and burrow are all of similiar age and to have to replace them all at once would be gross mis-management. We can still squeeze some more years out of burrow and sinfield, so if mcguire moves on in the near future it will allow us to gradually evolve the team rather than having to replace a bunch of stalwarts all at once.

I don't know if McDermott has the cojones to..........but Hetherington sure as hell does.

Mcguire doesn't need to move on, but he should be down the pecking order, if he moves on as a result then fair enough but I don't think he justifies his position any more. A reasonable kicking game is all he really brings the days

You don't think he needs to move on but you don't think he justifies his position. Mcguire wil be in the higher echelon of earners at leeds. I don't think you can justify having a player like that as bit part when theres a salary cap. It would never be the case. As long as mcguire is on leeds books he will be first choice.

I think we wouldn't get rid of him over the of season, but I would expect by this time next year he wouldn't be in the first 17. It may be that he moves on, or that he accepts his place. If he's out of contact any time soon be may move on but you wouldn't play him because he is paid a fair amount. That just compounds the problem

McGuire is clearly struggling to get back to full fitness and has probably returned too soon like some other players just because we have reached playoff time. Despite that I think it would be wrong to write off his future at Leeds. When fit he creates space for our threequarters that they dont always receive when he's missing. I would agree that he appears to be more injury prone than Sinfield and burrow and he may finish earlier than those two but I hope he still has a few years yet.